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To: stfassisi; Alamo-Girl; Mind-numbed Robot; Matchett-PI; xzins; metmom; Quix; P-Marlowe; MHGinTN
His encyclical on Americanism does not have to mention the Constitution because it's pretty clear he understood that it embodies a NEW form of liberty that is NOT Divinely inspired.

In what way is Pope Leo's encyclical specifically about "Americanism?" In what way is the American idea not "divinely inspired?"

The Constitution is silent about a man's — a citizen's  — "Unalienable Rights From God." It is only the Declaration of Independence — our most basic and morally foundational document — that speaks those words. The Constitution itself speaks the language, not of God directly, but of "We the People" — a people who simply wished to live their lives "under God" directly, without harassment from the government.

And you think somehow this typical expression of pure "American liberty" is "chopped liver???"

If so, you do not have a clue about the exceptional American Project....

Because we want to live "under God," the State HAS to be curtailed in its power.

That is what the Constitution — precisely — is aimed at doing.

In which We the People constrain the government from interfering with, abridging, or annulling the free exercise of our God-given liberties.

A man cannot live under "two masters." Capice???

To that I will only add: If this is what you learn in your Church, then I would not be amenable to becoming a member of your Church.

Such a thing, to me, would stink of "social justice" thinking. And as long as the Holy Spirit abides with me, I cannot accept such thinking. And will not abide with it.

I'm a CHRISTIAN. AND an American.

I love my God first; after that, the country of my birth.

The Constitution of the United States of America is what brings these two commitments into alignment for me, in my personal life.

Thank you so much for writing, dear brother in Christ!

48 posted on 07/05/2011 4:57:38 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop
In what way is Pope Leo's encyclical specifically about "Americanism?"

The Encyclical is about Americanism,dear sister.It does not get any plainer than that

In what way is the American idea not "divinely inspired?"

Legal Abortion,Pornography, etc..If it was founded in the Divine it could never be legal and there would be laws against these atrocities.

""And you think somehow this typical expression of pure "American liberty" is "chopped liver???""

Pure liberty is freedom from sin and there would be laws defining that sin in a divinely inspired system system-only the Church has been given that system,not America

50 posted on 07/05/2011 5:20:17 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: betty boop

Why do you need a long ping list when you’re only corresponding with me?


51 posted on 07/05/2011 5:23:46 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: betty boop

Exactly. bttt


56 posted on 07/05/2011 6:42:16 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("I used to think Obama was an empty suit but now I think he has filled his pants." ~badgerlandjim)
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To: betty boop

“”In which We the People constrain the government from interfering with, abridging, or annulling the free exercise of our God-given liberties.””

“We the people” will eventually agree(and has) that being gay,having an abortion, saying that pornography is constitutional is freedom.

We the people is satanic once morality has failed in our system in the US.

We the people is chaos and a failure!


62 posted on 07/05/2011 7:00:57 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: betty boop

WELL SAID.

GREAT POINTS.

THX THX.


66 posted on 07/05/2011 8:35:01 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: betty boop
Even though I wasn't on your “ping list”, I want to express my agreement with what you said regarding our Constitution. The men who founded this great country did so with the full knowledge that it would only succeed if its citizens were governed by the higher moral law of The Creator. They actually foresaw what we are seeing happening before our eyes when the citizens forgot their God and his laws. The standards set up by the Constitution were exactly like you said, defining what the government could and could NOT do.

Let's not forget that it was escaping from the tyranny of forced state religion that compelled those who founded the new settlements in the first place. To state that somehow God did not “divinely” establish this nation - because it was not a Roman Catholic country - is jawdroppingly ignorant. How can men be truly free if they are forced to bow to any religion? It MUST be a free choice if it is to be a deeply held faith. And only deeply held faith governs the true thoughts and intents of the heart and, without this moral constraint, no laws will work anyway!

87 posted on 07/06/2011 8:43:23 PM PDT by boatbums ( God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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