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To: Jvette
I cannot even comment on such a ridiculous statement.

St. Iranaeus is second century Christianity, and he records the successions of bishops in Rome going back to Peter.

It is historical fact, not fairy tale, not fantasy and not hearsay, but that is anathema to those who reject the one true Church.

Forgetting for the moment that the Bishop Of Rome had no authority outside the geographically limited jurisdiction of Rome, your claim of Iranaeus as your "authority" is problematic.

"The blessed Apostles, then, having founded and built up the church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate. Of this Linus Paul makes mention in his Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded Anacletus and after him, in third place from the Apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric."

Iranaeus

Peter is missing?

You seemingly have a habit of making dogmatic statements without attribution and expect others to accept them as fact. Opinion is one thing, statement of fact is another.

It would be nice if you provided supporting documentation every once in a while. Otherwise, I'm afraid you can't be taken seriously.

255 posted on 07/04/2011 9:55:08 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Jvette
the truth of the Gospel was preserved until the times of Victor, who was the thirteenth bishop of Rome from Peter…
Eusebius, Church History V.6
256 posted on 07/04/2011 11:19:43 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Jvette; Cronos
History is quite a bit easier when the religion has considerably less of it. For example, Old Reggie's:
Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religious tradition that was formed from the consolidation of two different religions: Unitarianism and Universalism. Both began in Europe hundreds of years ago.

In America, the Universalist Church of America was founded in 1793, and the American Unitarian Association in 1825. After consolidating in 1961, these faiths became the new religion of Unitarian Universalism through the Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA).

Both religions have long histories and have contributed important theological concepts that remain central to Unitarian Universalism. Originally, all Unitarians were Christians who didn't believe in the Holy Trinity of God (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost), but in the unity, or single aspect, of God. Later, Unitarian beliefs stressed the importance of rational thinking, a direct relationship with God, and the humanity of Jesus. Universalism emerged as a Christian denomination with a central belief in universal salvation; that is, that all people will eventually be reconciled with God.
Source.


257 posted on 07/04/2011 11:30:49 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: OLD REGGIE

If you are going to blast me for not providing supporting documentation, then when you do, please include all that is relevant to the discussion.

2. Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; [we do this, I say,] by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority, that is, the faithful everywhere, inasmuch as the tradition has been preserved continuously by those [faithful men] who exist everywhere.

Why would he list Peter again?


258 posted on 07/04/2011 5:18:20 PM PDT by Jvette
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