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“Thus, there too, a witness could not reveal what he said to the grand jury but this does not stop him from making a public complaint about what the crime he witness. The secrecy only applies to his testimony”

I’m sorry but that just doesn’t make sense. If one testifies about the facts of the commission of a crime before a Grand Jury they can’t then publically state the same facts to any one else until released from his oath.

It would seem that if the accuser in the “Crimen Passimum”, situation first goes before the church with the complaint he would be bound by the oath of the “secret of the Holy Office” not to divulge the facts of the complaint to any one else under penalty of excommunication since he has first divulged the facts to the church. The exception in the code is they are not under censure “unless they were expressly warned of this in the proceedings of accusation......”.

But it stands to reason that the penalty would be read when the oath is administered.

If the accuser first goes through criminal justice system, then the confidentiality of the oath in the church’s investigation is meaningless since the accusation is public knowledge.

From the Federal Grand Jury Manual:

What Is Covered By Rule 6(e)
Rule 6(e) prohibits the disclosure of any information that would reveal "matters occurring before the grand jury." Rule 6(e) does not cover all information developed during the course of a grand jury investigation; only information that would reveal the strategy or direction of the investigation, the nature of the evidence produced before the grand jury, the views expressed by members of the grand jury, or anything else that actually occurred before the grand jury. Rule 6(e) does not apply to material obtained or created independently of the grand jury as long as the disclosure of such material does not reveal what transpired before or at the direction of the grand jury. Rule 6(e) also does not apply to information that has become a matter of public record, for example, by its introduction at trial.

It is only testimony before the grand jury that is covered. The same rule would apply to testimony before a church tribunal.

Thanks for keeping them honest, B-D.

They seem to think everyone buys their double-speak.

All parties must take the papal oath of secrecy upon threat of excommunication - the victims, the victims’ parents, teachers, and clergy.

Where is law enforcement in all this? Nowhere.