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St. Thomas More, Martyr Of The English Reformation, Remembered June 22
EWTN.com ^ | 20-June-2011 | Catholic News Agency via EWTN

Posted on 06/21/2011 4:23:40 PM PDT by Salvation

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**On July 7, 1535, the 57-year-old More came before the executioner to be beheaded. "I die the king's good servant," he told the onlonokers, "but God's first."**

Indeed, God is always first.

1 posted on 06/21/2011 4:23:46 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation

My patron saint.


2 posted on 06/21/2011 4:26:41 PM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members of the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Does St. Thomas More’s death illustrate putting God above wife, kin, country, everyone else (including the king)?

Catholic ping!


3 posted on 06/21/2011 4:27:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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A Man for All Seasons indeed.


4 posted on 06/21/2011 4:36:17 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Say No to Slick Willard)
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To: Salvation
God is always first.

Right. He is First as God's Word is The Final Authority.
5 posted on 06/21/2011 4:51:17 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( The Palin Party: The Party of Patriots.)
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“Although Thomas never joined the clergy, “
“More even authored a book published in Henry’s name, “
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thank you very much for posting this.
i never knew those things, and others.
...he was a far better man than i.
i would hope that any Christian,
could at least respect his faith and dedication to God,
and see in him, a brother in Christ.


6 posted on 06/21/2011 4:51:51 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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7 posted on 06/21/2011 4:52:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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And who will remember the people Thomas More had burned at the stake? One of them was William Tyndale, whose translation of the bible into English accounts for about 85 percent of the King James version.


8 posted on 06/21/2011 4:56:25 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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Yes it does and it’s the reason he went to the block. Henry the VIII was a bastard who placed himself above Gods law.


9 posted on 06/21/2011 5:42:48 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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Thanks Salvation. God is always first.
10 posted on 06/21/2011 5:43:54 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw the Rats and RINOs out!)
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And who will remember the people Thomas More had burned at the stake? One of them was William Tyndale

Really? That's an impressive achievement on More's part, since More was beheaded in London in June, 1535, and Tyndale was burned in Belgium in October of 1536.

11 posted on 06/21/2011 5:56:25 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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I had forgotten that More was largely responsible for the burning of Tyndale.

I'll have to read more about that. I believe More had other reformers burned as well.

12 posted on 06/21/2011 5:56:25 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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I had forgotten that More was largely responsible for the burning of Tyndale.

See above. You were wise to forget it, since it's a myth, not to mention an impossibility.

I'll grant you that Tyndale and More didn't like each other when both were alive. One hopes that they are now good friends in heaven.

13 posted on 06/21/2011 5:58:30 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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Catherine Parr, the last of Henrys wives and the only one to keep her head , said of More on his death, “Today died a man of great wit. And little sense’’.


14 posted on 06/21/2011 5:58:30 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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the only one to keep her head

Henry only beheaded two of his wives. He divorced two, one died following childbirth, and one -- Parr -- survived him.

15 posted on 06/21/2011 5:59:58 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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More fell from King Henry’s grace faster than he could catch William Tyndale. It doesn’t change the fact that he bitterly opposed William Tyndale, opposed his excellent translation, and did his best to kill him.

“I find that breed of men absolutely loathsome,” he told Erasmus. “I want to be as hateful to them as anyone possibly can be; for my increasing experience with these men frightens me with the thought that the whole world will suffer at their hands.”

More described his feelings on the fate of the heretic: “The air longs to blow noxious vapours against the wicked man. The sea longs to overwhelm him in its waves, the mountains to fall upon him, hell to swallow him up after his headlong fall, the demons to plunge him into gulfs of ever-burning flames...”


16 posted on 06/21/2011 6:08:49 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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“You were wise to forget it, since it’s a myth, not to mention an impossibility.”

False. The wheels were set in motion, and no one who reads More’s own words can doubt his hatred from Protestants. More wrote 9 volumes trying to refute Tyndale, and failed miserably.

http://www.archive.org/stream/tyndalesanswer00tynduoft/tyndalesanswer00tynduoft_djvu.txt


17 posted on 06/21/2011 6:11:27 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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Thanks. Thought she was the only one.


18 posted on 06/21/2011 6:11:42 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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The forgotten side of More:

http://tudorswiki.sho.com/page/Sir+Thomas+More+Controversies


19 posted on 06/21/2011 6:17:26 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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It doesn’t change the fact that he bitterly opposed William Tyndale

More was a Catholic, charged by his King to enforce the law in a Catholic kingdom long before freedom of religion existed there or anywhere else ... and Tyndale was a heretic. Protestant rulers of the time behaved precisely the same way toward those who disagreed with them on religious grounds, whether Protestant or Catholic.

However, I should point out that, not only was More quite dead by the time Tyndale was executed, Tyndale lived on the continent from 1524 until his death. More became Lord Chancellor in 1529. His influence began to wane already the next year, and Henry accepted his resignation in 1532. Legally speaking, Tyndale was never under More's jurisdiction.

Tyndale's translation contained plenty of notes and editorial changes supporting his Protestant point of view.

20 posted on 06/21/2011 6:19:14 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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