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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
find out where we got the Bible from, who set the canon and you will find the Church you seek.

Oh that's baloney!..... Jesus never set those conditions on anyone who came to Him. He said follow ME!.. and I will make you fishers of men" Which means He will lead....and that's a promise. Jesus is faithful to lead those who seek a church to the destination He would have them....and it requires no understanding of any churches cannon, doctrine or lists of to-dos to sit among them.

180 posted on 06/21/2011 9:10:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

More to the point is the idea that men (in this case, the early church fathers) are responsible for scripture. Some gathering of men. Some group. Some particular set of, yes, let’s call them followers of Christ. So, the conclusion goes, let’s follow...THESE MEN...

I will follow the scriptures which GOD gave those early church fathers and by GOD’S SPIRIT be led into all truth. This will include finding those that worship God in Spirit and in truth (because such please the Father) and when I am with 2 or 3 others who are gathered in the name, which is above every name, (the name of Christ), there will HE (Christ) be in the midst). Ta Da. Church. His Church. His Spirit-led church. Ordained by God (as it follows His Scripture (and not men). Does the church have a name (a brand) in front of it? Possibly, but this is man’s attempt to identify itself. Is this pride? From this thread, it sounds like it can be—the God of the Bible hates pride, by the way. Does it have to be this gathering or that? It has to be Spirit-led. For such please the Father.

If you look back over this thread, (and now I’m talking to the author of this thread—I’ve forgotten who that is just now) you will see many bringing you to a place where THEY worship. And I know you’ve asked for the opinions of men, so I do not denigrate their willingness to respond. But, if you are looking for the place where you are to meet with GOD, to worship HIM and to serve HIM, then you need to ask HIM (The scriptures say, “...if you seek ME with all your heart, you will find ME.”) I have my own ideas about where He WON’T lead you, but I will choose to keep these to myself. I have gone on these threads to discuss scripture before and they are maddening...ultimately, the people who profess to know Christ can look awfully petty and mean-spirited before a world that is dying and needing to know Christ or confront the eternal separation that comes from not knowing the Savior—you know, preaching the gospel to all nations. We forget the mission (myself included) and, instead, prop up our own understanding. It is the spirit which is life, the flesh profits nothing. Do we need to confront false doctrine, heresies, error? Yes, but we are also commanded to avoid foolish, endless arguments, which is what threads like this can become.

Again, to the author of this thread, go back to your original query, prayerfully be still before God, be led by His Spirit. He will guide you into all truth.


205 posted on 06/22/2011 5:54:54 AM PDT by MarDav
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