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To: Psalm 144
"Lying for the Lord"

Also, "milk before meat".

"Common members see such examples as situations where lying is justified. For the Mormon, loyalty and the welfare of the church are more important than the principle of honesty, and plausible denials and deception by omission are warranted by an opportunity to have the Mormon organization seen in the best possible light. This is part of the larger package of things that lead many to describe Mormonism as a cult. "Lying for the lord" is part of Mormonism's larger deceptive mainstreaming tactics, and conversion numbers would drastically lower if important Mormon beliefs were fully disclosed to investigators.

Robert L. Millet is a professor of ancient scripture at Brigham Young University.

Robert L. Millet

48 posted on 06/17/2011 9:25:58 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works or bound by manmade "covenants". Romney's can.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Is “lying for the Lord” a phrase used by the practitioners? I ask because if so it indicates a truly compromised mindset, one so twisted as to be perpetually self deceiving. I can see the “mild before meat” sophistry being used by apologists, and as a self reassurance that it is all OK.

Is this sort of like the dichotomy of “Name it and Claim it” doctrine as espoused by those who believe it, compared to the same notion being described as “Blab it and Grab it” by those who reject the notion?

I have to say these links are interesting. It it reveals something like a whole elaborate tunnel and bunker system underneath a simple shack used as a cover. Very deceptive.


49 posted on 06/17/2011 9:43:24 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: greyfoxx39

If Robert L. Millet was an attorney, and advised a witness to answer questions in that manner and it was discovered, he would be disbarred at a minimum, and likely imprisoned.

I begin to understand the Mormon suicide rate. I always assumed the pressure was external, but this approach to life would make the pressures internal in any person who retained some decency.


50 posted on 06/17/2011 9:52:53 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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