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To: The Theophilus

By the chart at the website, your 70 weeks ended in 34 AD ... how could the AofD happen then in 70 AD?


92 posted on 06/16/2011 1:36:56 PM PDT by dartuser ("Dealing with preterists is like cleaning the litter box ... but at least none of the cats are big.")
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To: dartuser
By the chart at the website, your 70 weeks ended in 34 AD ... how could the AofD happen then in 70 AD?

LOL

Who is it that gratuitously adds thousands of years gap between the weeks? Of all people who should criticize the timeline - it sure as heck can't be the Futurists!

Seriously though, it really befuddles me why Futurists insist so much on rejecting the Revelation of Jesus Christ and pretend that prophecy is all about revealing the "Anti-Christ". That pattern is manifest in framing your question.

The following isn't my opinion, its pretty much the consensus of millennia of theological understanding and teaching concerning the last week in Daniel's seventy weeks. Starting the clock at 458BC we get to AD 26 the very time many accept the Epiphany where the Trinity are together kicking off our LORD's incarnate ministry. The spring of AD30 gives us the Crucixifion three and one half years into the last seven. Here is where you mistakenly apply the Futurist template to the orthodox teaching, the three and one-half years is not about the Anti-Christ or about some Abomination of Desolation, real or symbolic, the prophecy is still about our LORD and about the Covenant that He confirms. The last three and one half years is the period of time where the testament was confirmed to Israel (Acts 2:38).

Stephen's martyrdom and Paul's conversion happened the same year Jesus was crucified. In Galatians 1:18 we see that Paul meets Peter in Jerusalem "three years later". It is at this time, 33AD when Peter was given the command that the gospel was to go to the Gentiles (Acts 10-11) this is 3.5 years after the crucifixion and the formal end of the seventy weeks for Israel.

Notice, that there are no gaps, no equivocation, no adding in dates and events from outside the Bible.

I understand that the seventy weeks is absolutely critical to the foundation of Dispensationalism, so I can see why Darby and Scofield would replace Jesus Christ in Daniel's prophecy with prophecy celebrating Satan. But there is something you should privately consider about gratuitously adding a gap.

Do you think that the seventy years of captivity, and seventy weeks of Daniel's prophecy are just a coincidence to a God who arranges all things? A curious thing we find in Daniel 9. Daniel knows from the prophets that the 70 years of captivity were in return for ignoring the Sabbath years, and during this time of Captivity God would let the land heal and enjoy the Sabbaths. As this time was near completion, Daniel petitioned the LORD to beg forgiveness and pray that God, despite the wickedness of the Israelites, would end the calamity as He promised.

Now lets pretend that God did to Israel and Daniel for the seventy years what Futurists claim that God is doing now in terms of the seventy weeks - by adding a gap. If God said "seventy years" to Israel, and around the sixty-ninth year God inserted a century or two of more captivity, would we call God a liar in that captivity, as told to the prophets was not seventy years but was nearly three hundred? God would be a liar if He added an indeterminate gap, rendering the whole idea of seventy years a joke. But this is exactly what Futurists claim God is doing now - it isn't seventy weeks, its five times that many weeks (and counting).

Thus, it is folly to say that God added a gap yet meant seventy weeks when it is now three hundred and fifty plus weeks. With the Orthodox historical view of Daniel's Weeks, we have a amazingly accurate prediction that fully "confirms the covenant" and preserves perfectly the prophecy as given to Daniel.

93 posted on 06/16/2011 4:18:26 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: dartuser
Mathew 24:45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
94 posted on 06/16/2011 5:01:53 PM PDT by Errant
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