Really?
Really. That is how Origen got the boot.
Your "infallible" source for the writing of 2 Peter in 150 AD is????????????
No infallible source; however http://www.abu.nb.ca/courses/NTIntro/2Pet.htm might be of interest. They do a very nice job in looking at all the internal and external evidence. There is of course no definite conclusion, however, the weight is on the authorship by someone else and probably in the Gnostic times of the second century.
When did the "Church's belief" about the Perpetual Virginity, the Immaculate Conception, and the Bodily Assumption first become known?
Perpetual virginity? Origen ca. 230s wrote of it. Immaculate Conception? The Eastern Orthodox celebrated the purity of Mary in Syria first in the 5th century, and the Latin branch developed the concept further in the 1100s with Anselm. Bodily Assumption? John the Damascene in the 6th century.
have included a few "When Was The Bible Written" timelines for your review. I agree that neither agrees completely with the other and, in any event, both are "best guesses". However, they establish general timelines with which you can compare your "...Church’s belief about Mary started long before any NT Scripture was ever written."
Suffice to say I believe you are off, way off
When was the Bible written. 1.
When was the Bible written 2.
Thank you. However, in neither case was the timeline defended that I was able to tell. Simple statements do not necessarily prove anything. Also, what in the world are you doing on the CARM site? They'd sterilize the site with bleach for a week if they found out that a UU was wandering through it. :)
At any rate, the belief is that the Gospel writer Luke wrote the first icon - of Mary. That was certainly pre-Gospel, and possibly before any of the rest of what would become Scripture was written. Certainly before it was widely circulated.
The "Unafilliated" have a great advantage over the "Organized" in that we feel free to use any source generally available. :-)
(Secret: I will even use Athiest sites for research purposes.)
True! There is no defensible timeline for any book, after much debate and arm twisting, accepted into our current "perfect" Bible. I presented two differing versons as an illustration the Gospels were written and accepted long before any "Fathers" invented an exalted role for Mary.
At any rate, the belief is that the Gospel writer Luke wrote the first icon - of Mary. That was certainly pre-Gospel, and possibly before any of the rest of what would become Scripture was written. Certainly before it was widely circulated.
I must admit I chuckle when I see a presentation of fact justified by such terms as "the belief is", "Legend has it..", or "(Holy) Tradition is...".
That, my son, is not allowed as evidence in my court.