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To: BlackElk

You are pleased with your proper Church; millions of others who enter a structure resembling an aircraft hangar where a presider sits where a tabernacle should be featured flanked by girl altar boys, are not.

You can tell it’s truly Novus Ordo as the chattering ceases only when the music show starts. After all, nothing of importance will br proceeding.


58 posted on 06/16/2011 5:02:36 AM PDT by IbJensen (Welfare: putting a cake under the sink expecting that it wont attract cockroaches.)
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To: IbJensen
I share your tastes in ecclesiastical architecture and liturgy and in appropriate manners at Mass and the sensible notion that we need altar boys rather than female altar "servers" since service at the altar is expected to lead to priestly vocations which is not and never will be available to girls per JP II and B-XVI.

Even in the City of Rockford, there are a number of "churches" better architecturally suited to be warehouses but that work will apparently be left to the next actually Catholic bishop. Meanwhile numbers of pastors have restored the altar rails to their churches of a more conventional style. There had been a brief enthusiasm among the worst of the clergy to remove kneelers from the pews but that was promptly crushed by the diocesan officials. The senior liberal pastor in Rockford had a gay music director who was fired by the diocese when he and his significant other tried to adopt a child, bringing the entire scandal to diocesan attention. The pastor was sent off for six months to ponder his shortcomings, replaced by much more Catholic clergy for that period and then transferred (in advanced age) to pastor four small parishes in what amounts to diocesan Siberia. We dare think that was a suggestion that he retire. As with the USCCB, the aging nuisances are dying off among local pastors and they are being replaced with actual Catholics.

It will take a while and, just as the Church in America, courtesy of the execrable Jadot, was not destroyed in a day, it won't be rebuilt in a day either. DiNardo in Texas sure beats Flores. Likewise Garcia over McPhoney in LA, Dolan over Weakland at Milwaukee, over his predecessor in NY whose name escapes me, and over Tucson Bishop Kicanas at USCCB, George over Bernardin at Chicago, Burke, Rigali and Carlson as archbishops at St. Louis over May, Olmstead at Phoenix over O'Brien and a host of bishops of other dioceses, such as Denver and Colorado Springs and Detroit and Newark and Springfield, IL, and Fort Worth and we need improvement at DC and Albany and Rochester and numbers of other dioceses.

The answer to the remaining problems lies not in a rude and impudent schism such as SSPX but within the institutional Church. All too many of the schismatics have the manners and leadership style on the ecclesiastical right that mirrors those of the aging and fading radicals of the ecclesiastical left such as Chittester, Weakland, Curran, Bourgeois, Fox, and the surviving members of their shrinking left cult of self-worship.

God bless you and yours.

59 posted on 06/16/2011 2:12:47 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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