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To: Mrs. Don-o

Yes, in “Rum” means Roman in both Arabic and Turkish. The Turkish name for the Partriarchate of Constantinople is “Rum Patrikhi” = “Roman Patriarchate”. Under the Ottomans, Orthodox Christians were called the “Rum Millet” = “Roman Nation”, and the Patriarch of Constantinople was forced to have role of Ethnarch. And among Arabic speakers, it’s not just the terribly scrupulous among us Orthodox who call (Western Rite) folks in communion with the Pope of Rome “Latins”, the Arabic word for “Roman Catholic” is “Latin” (pronounced Lateen).

Until shortly before the Greek War of Independence, “Greek” nationalism was not styled “Hellenism” (Hellene meant “Greek pagan”), but “Romanism”. (Circa 1776 if you called a Greek speaking Christian a “Hellene”, you’d likely get a punch in the nose along with the declaration “I’m not a Hellene, I’m a Roman!”.)


53 posted on 05/26/2011 8:28:20 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
Thank you! I had no idea of the nuances. I think a time or two I imagined I was being insulted, but I wasn't.

If that makes sense.:o)

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54 posted on 05/26/2011 9:37:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Rum, Romanism and Rebellion!)
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