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To: Vanders9
I cannot fully understand the mind and will of God, of course. I am a man and God is God. However, I can draw conclusions about the nature and character of God based on 1) statements from His word, the Bible. 2) My own personal experiences. 3)The experiences of others. 4) Logical deduction. 5) Divine indwelling and/or revelation.

More circular reasoning. You can draw conclusions about God from his word? How do you know it's his word? Because you CHOOSE to believe it! That is your decision. Don't you get it. There are billions of people on this earth who CHOOSE to believe in another "word of god".

Neither your choice, nor your personal experience (which could be anything, even abnormal), nor the experience of others, and especially not logical deduction in this case is a proof of anything.

People dying for their faith is no proof. Daily Islamic nuts blow themselves up for their faith. Experience of others could be just as nutty. Just ask the Jim Jone or David Koresh crowd. Or the Fatima "witnesses" in 1917. Or the "personal experience" of the Medjugorje "witness". You can apply logic only if you assume that your assumptions really exist, and for that you need proof that they do first and foremost.

Divine indwelling/revelation is like thin air. Zoroastrianism is also a "revealed" religion. So is Islam. is that a proof they are "true"? Why should I believe you that there is some "spirit" indwelling you, whispering in your ear? If you believe it, fine, but don't expect others to buy into it.

So, what's the point you are trying to make? You can't prove a single thing you say. All your reasons have exceptions and can be shown to be no proof of any kind. It all come down to you making a choice, for whatever reason. If you are hoping to "preach" to me in hopes of converting me, I'd say go get a job and give to charity. It will be more productive.

75 posted on 06/01/2011 6:42:06 AM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50
If you are hoping to "preach" to me in hopes of converting me, I'd say go get a job and give to charity. It will be more productive.

This is atheist talk - agnostics do not have closed minds.
76 posted on 06/01/2011 7:09:54 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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