I though when they are baptized they are transformed to hate sin. The evidence seems ot be lacking that this is so.
I didn't say it was illogical. I said you cannot prove it with logic.
Then it's illogical. It's like saying 2 + 2 = 5. You say it's true and I say prove it. Okay, so let's say you are right...what can you prove it withW?
I personally do not believe faith and reason are incompatible
What do you base your 'reason' on if it isn't on logic?
God chooses to use prophets (no quotes needed) because He chooses to work through Humans, perhaps because it teaches the people involved something.
Perhaps? Are you guessing? And how do you know that that's what he wants? You read it from the self-styled "prophets", didn't you?
Start at the point of where you are. If you don't even know if God exists, or even what God is, or what to call divine and what to call worldly, then ask Him to resolve that.
Well, why don't you tell me how he resolved it for you? What am I supposed to do? Listen for "voices"...from the heaven "KOSTA!...here I am [like he doesn't know]...?
What I am trying to get over is that belief is a combination of many things - reason, emotion, passion, faith
It can't be reason, because it's illogical. The rest is fluff. Your fancy. Frankly I don't feel like talking to the air. God supposedly knows your thoughts and desires. No need to talk to the air. I have done my share of that. The world is the way it is even if we don't understand it. If there is God and he wants me to know something, he will let me know. God is not my busboy who waits for me to call.
Eastern Christianity believes that God makes the first move. He knocks on your door and it is up to you to open it and let him in. You don't call God to answer you because you want him to prove himself to you! The East would call that the "ugly twins", arrogance and pride, of the fallen humanity.
Kind of suggests that theory is wrong then.
Then it's illogical. It's like saying 2 + 2 = 5.
No it isnt. Not at all.
You say it's true and I say prove it. Okay, so let's say you are right...what can you prove it withW?
Only example. Nothing that would convince you.
What do you base your 'reason' on if it isn't on logic?
I base it on logic, the same as everyone else. This really isnt all that hard to follow. I am saying that faith is reasonable. Belief in God is reasonable. I cannot prove God's existence solely with reason, but the idea of God does hang together logically.
Perhaps? Are you guessing?
Yes.
And how do you know that that's what he wants? You read it from the self-styled "prophets", didn't you?
No.
Well, why don't you tell me how he resolved it for you? What am I supposed to do? Listen for "voices"...from the heaven "KOSTA!...here I am [like he doesn't know]...?
I am perfectly prepared to tell you, if you are really serious when you said "you respect my faith" earlier. Because there is scant evidence of that right now.
It can't be reason, because it's illogical.
It can be, because it isn't illogical. I've spent some time and effort trying to explain that.
The rest is fluff. Your fancy. Frankly I don't feel like talking to the air. God supposedly knows your thoughts and desires. No need to talk to the air. I have done my share of that. The world is the way it is even if we don't understand it.
There's a lot of anger and pain here isn't there? I'm so sorry.
If there is God and he wants me to know something, he will let me know. God is not my busboy who waits for me to call.
I'm sure he will. It's not a question of God being in your pocket and under your control, to be snapped out every time you have a problem. God delights in us talking to Him.
Eastern Christianity believes that God makes the first move. He knocks on your door and it is up to you to open it and let him in. You don't call God to answer you because you want him to prove himself to you! The East would call that the "ugly twins", arrogance and pride, of the fallen humanity.
I believe that God makes the first move too. I don't call God just to prove His existence - in my case doing that was the way I answered the "knock on the door". I was just suggesting that you try that, if you were having so much trouble in believing God's very existence. You may have given up on Him, but He won't give up on you. Not this side of glory.