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To: Vanders9
I will have to break up your post in smaller, digestible pieces. I don't like long threads.

I’m sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were questioning what was in the Bible rather than its very standing as the revealed word of God

If the authorship is in quesiton, then what's in it is in question as well.

Obviously I cannot prove to you that the Bible is the real deal.

Hebrews 8:10-11 say there's no need for it. Yet, obviously there is...so somethings not right.

I can offer you evidence, based on literary research and the experiences of many millions of people all around the world over many centuries, but they would not be a scientific type proof

The Muslims, Jews and Hindus can do the same thing. The Hindu scriptures are older than the Jewish ones. And billions of people believe them, and have for milennia.

I have nothing against God. If he does intercede in people's lives then I have a lot to be thankful for. But I don;t know if he does does or not, if he exists or not.

But I do know that I have a buffet of people offering me their version of the Truth. To me they are all human stories full of holes, lacing in proof, or evidence, based on preconceived assumptions and influenced by cultures.

In other words they are human creations, and will not submit my beliefs to a human. I don;t believe God needs "prophets" and 'preachers" to let people know who he is, if he is and what he is.

In the end, all I can say is that my study of it leads me to believe it to be a sound basis for my life, one that in turn challenges, comforts, educates and affirms. I would commend it to you!

I appreciate that and I am glad that it works for you. My study leads me away from that belief. It's not necessarily what I set out to do when I started asking questions, but that's where I arrived. The real world is not how it;s described in the Bible. Period.

51 posted on 05/30/2011 7:03:19 AM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50
If the authorship is in quesiton, then what's in it is in question as well.

Well, obviously. But that wasn't the thrust of what you were trying to get over.

Hebrews 8:10-11 say there's no need for it. Yet, obviously there is...so somethings not right.

I don't think the passage you quote means that.

The Muslims, Jews and Hindus can do the same thing. The Hindu scriptures are older than the Jewish ones. And billions of people believe them, and have for milennia.

The Muslims and Jews certainly can do that - but that doesnt invalidate my argument. The Hindus don't really have scriptures as we understand the term, but I agree they are very old.

I have nothing against God. If he does intercede in people's lives then I have a lot to be thankful for. But I don;t know if he does does or not, if he exists or not.

Well, start at that point then. Ask Him to reveal Himself to you. If He exists, and you are serious in attempting to know Him, then He will answer.

But I do know that I have a buffet of people offering me their version of the Truth. To me they are all human stories full of holes, lacing in proof, or evidence, based on preconceived assumptions and influenced by cultures. In other words they are human creations, and will not submit my beliefs to a human. I don;t believe God needs "prophets" and 'preachers" to let people know who he is, if he is and what he is.

Not neccesarily. Sure there has been a Human cultural influence over these tales, but that doesn't neccesarily mean they are Human creations.

I appreciate that and I am glad that it works for you. My study leads me away from that belief. It's not necessarily what I set out to do when I started asking questions, but that's where I arrived. The real world is not how it;s described in the Bible. Period.

That last is a very definitive statement. I think in the Bible you can find the whole gamut of the Human experience, good and bad.

56 posted on 05/30/2011 9:26:41 AM PDT by Vanders9
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