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To: TaraP
So, the question is, does the Rapture of the Church come before the Tribulation, in the middle of the Tribulation or after the Tribulation?


45 posted on 05/23/2011 7:00:51 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Talisker

The Scriptures, both OT & NT, imply that the rapture of the church will occur BEFORE the great tribulation, or tribulation, that is described in Matthew 24:21; in other words, before the wrath of God is poured out.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 says, “For God has not destined us (believers, i.e., the church) for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.” This outpouring of God’s wrath is called the Day of the Lord, 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11.

If God’s wrath is coming at mid-point of Daniel’s 70th week (which is when I believe the Scriptures say it is coming, not at the beginning of Daniel’s 70th week), then the church must be raptured by mid-point; the church cannot be here when God’s wrath begins. The abomination of desolation/man of lawlessness/little horn/antichrist seats himself in the temple in Jerusalem and demands worship at the mid-point of the Week. The 2 witnesses also go up at the mid-point (Revelation 11).
[Matthew 24:15; Daniel 9:27, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4]

All this to say, the Scriptures strongly imply the rapture will occur before the mid-point of Daniel’s 70th week and explicitly say it will occur before the Day of the Lord begins, or mid-point. And, our Lord said in Matthew 24:36 that all the events described in these verses: of that day & hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone—which is why Harold Camping is a false teacher.


47 posted on 05/23/2011 7:39:09 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Talisker

The Scriptures, both OT & NT, imply that the rapture of the church will occur BEFORE the great tribulation, or tribulation, that is described in Matthew 24:21; in other words, before the wrath of God is poured out. It could occur any time BEFORE the mid-point.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 says, “For God has not destined us (believers, i.e., the church) for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.” This outpouring of God’s wrath begins with the Day of the Lord, according to 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11.

If God’s wrath is coming at mid-point of Daniel’s 70th week, then the church must be raptured by mid-point; the church cannot be here when God’s wrath begins.

The abomination of desolation/man of lawlessness/little horn/antichrist (synonymous) seats himself in the temple in Jerusalem and demands worship at the mid-point of the Week. The 2 witnesses also go up at the mid-point [Revelation 11].[Matthew 24:15; Daniel 9:27, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4]

All this to say, the Scriptures strongly imply the rapture will occur before the mid-point of Daniel’s 70th week and explicitly say it will occur before the Day of the Lord begins, or mid-point.

And, our Lord said in Matthew 24:36 that all the events described in these verses [Matthew 24]: “of that day & hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone”—which is why Harold Camping is a false teacher.


48 posted on 05/23/2011 7:48:06 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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