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To: daniel1212
"I certainly did answer that,

No, you didn't/ It doesn't require paragraphs of irrelevant clippings and portentously assembled blather, a simple yes or no will suffice. Do you have the gift of infallibility? I just need to know if you expect everyone to unconditionally believe you or to simply take your interpretations as an opinion.

Are you asserting your interpretations are infallible?

198 posted on 05/28/2011 6:57:46 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
I did answer affirmatively, but conditionally, as this is a debate, not simply a questionnaire, and my responses were to your premise, while it is you who have been avoiding the real issue.

2) Are you infallibly certain that your interpretation of the Bible is infallible?

More than i can be certain that Rome is the infallible interpreter, and as much as i can [be] certain its interpretations are infallible, insomuch as Scripture clearly declares such. And anyone who even affirms that there is a God could be declaring infallible truth.

To reiterate what was also said ,

I believe i can infallibly and inerrantly declare, based upon what is clearly stated in the Scriptures, that God is, and has communicated His word to certain souls mentioned in the Bible. And so may you and Rome.

On the other end, I do not hold i can declare anything close to certainty as knowing the year of the Lord's return. And i certainly do not infallibly declare that i am and will be infallible and inerrantly whenever i speak on faith and morals to all within my house, or the like.

Thus it should have been evident to you that the answer was a conditional yes, for as i carefully stated, the real issue is the basis for determining infallibility, that of Scriptural warrant and corroboration, versus conformity to a content and scope-based criteria, which renders whatever it declares to be infallible, not the degree of scriptural substantiation, which might not even be an infallible interpretation of said Scripture.

Now are you certain that your understandings of infallible definitions are infallible, as well as your judgment as to how many declarations (judging the parts that are), certainty of which you need to know in order to submit to them?

Can you even be certain, with the certainty of faith, that you have received a true sacrament through Rome's clergy?

And if you have certainty that the Pope has only spoken ex cathedra twice, do you claim greater ability than Roman Catholic apologists and clergy who disagree with you?

212 posted on 05/28/2011 8:21:47 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: Natural Law; daniel1212
Are you asserting your interpretations are infallible?

Still with the trick questions? If the answer is, yes, you will ridicule and deny it. If he says, no, you will say, then we don't have to listen to you. The Pharisees tried the same kind of things with Jesus.

223 posted on 05/28/2011 9:42:23 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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