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To: HarleyD; Natural Law; daniel1212; Cronos; Kolokotronis; Notwithstanding; MarkBsnr; Quix
[Could you tell me which version of the Luke's Gospel...do you consider "inerrant and infallible"?] Why the one in my Bible.

How do you know that? That's the version chosen by the Catholic Church, which you reject as having no authority.

When have the Orthodox accepted the filique of the Nicene Creed?

Why should they accept an innovation when the Creed was written without the filioque, and specifically forbidding any changes in it?!? The filioque itself was inserted uncanonically 200 years later without any authority to do so, by a local church in Spain, and was steadfastly rejected by the popes for the next 500 years, all the way until the 11th century.

When have the Orthodox accepted Mary as Co-Redepdix?

They don't believe she is a redeemer of any kind by virtue of her essence or nature, but by the virtue of her giving birth to the Redeemer of the world, and that her prayers, more than ours, have a special resonance with God. I'd say that belief has been around for a long time, probably ever since they have the hymn "Most Holy Theotokos, save us." And the Orthodox don't change much their 1,700 year old liturgical hymns.

[How many corrupt, homosexual, Jim Joneses, money manipulating, prostitute chasing, end of the world nuts do you have in the Protestant community to pretend to have the moral high ground form which to throw mud at others?] Um...not many. Most of them end up joining the Catholic Church.

You don't read much, do you?

I've been to the Holy Lands and seen how the Jews cringe whenever they past Orthodox and Catholic churches. You see, they seem to think there is a lot of idolatry in them. So while the Orthodox and Catholics may wish to go to great gyrations and SAY they are not REALLY bowing down to idols, that is not how others perceive it.

I got news for you: the Jews reject anyone who believes that man can be God! To them such a believer is an idolatrist. The Jews reject Protestant Christians with equal dsigust (just visit the anti-missionary sites) as they do all other Christians, including—and especially— the so-called "Jews for Jesus" messianic variety.

Whether they bow to idols or simply pray to the one the Jews see as man-god (and, as they say, a legend at that!), makes very little difference.

[Protestants are a lot more liberal and all-inclusive then Catholics or especially the Orthodox. Protestant "churches" have openly homosexual "married" men and openly lesbian and "married" women as "bishops", or "ordained" ministers] I don't know if I agree with this statement. I think this can be said for all churches. To their credit the Orthodox seem to draw the line.

Well, draw up a list of Protestant assemblies with female and homosexual clergy and compare to Catholic or Orthodox Churches. Like I said, you don't seem to read much, HD.

126 posted on 05/27/2011 5:19:56 AM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50

You are a man of faith AND reason.

The other guys? Not so much.


127 posted on 05/27/2011 7:05:34 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: kosta50; Natural Law; daniel1212; Cronos; Kolokotronis; Notwithstanding; MarkBsnr; Quix
That's the version chosen by the Catholic Church, which you reject as having no authority.

Having "authority" over what? My doctrine? Last time I looked the Orthodox don't follow everything the Catholic Church states. Perhaps you meant authority of the Pope? Seems to me the Orthodox don't accept the Pope as the final authority either.

Well, draw up a list of Protestant assemblies with female and homosexual clergy and compare to Catholic or Orthodox Churches. Like I said, you don't seem to read much, HD.

Yes, yes. That does seem to be the talking points tonight.


138 posted on 05/27/2011 6:25:10 PM PDT by HarleyD
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