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To: marbren
typical LCMS Lutherans and typical LCMS Pastors

I believe there are, but following 'putting the best construction on everything' my observation would be: repentant sinners in need of and possessing a Savior for the laity, faithful preachers of God's Word as a repentant sinner in need of and possessing a Savior.

He said he wanted to teach and preach so that the uncomfortable become comfortable and the comfortable become uncomfortable.

Typical pastor minus the cool motto.

This is what I am asking about my local LCMS church and concerned it may be a systemic problem in the LCMS.

Here it goes again. You believe that the passage from Timothy describes LCMS, and find yourself comfortable saying it without knowledge of any doctrine that would support you. Are there such in an LCMS congregation? Statistically, probably, but you condemn 2 million plus based on your 'feeling'. I see you still have the mirror on the counter, unused.

concerned

How so, you have demonstrated a lack of knowledge of almost all things LCMS? Your pet peeve is your grindstone and because of it, the LCMS is "loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires" and "men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected."

But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

Wait, I think I've met one after all.

914 posted on 06/02/2011 5:10:16 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone; Quix; Alamo-Girl; GiovannaNicoletta
Hi everyone, for about a week now, starting on this thread around post 620 or so and on a few other threads my FRiend, xone, and I have been discussing openly the condition of our current church family The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod LCMS. My local LCMS church has been in a schism for about 4 years based on some very unique circumstances. My local church worships in 2 locations presently. I am an elder serving with my Pastor.

My best friend thinks a book needs to be written and he would help edit it. He has written several technical books. He is a neutral observer and not a member of the LCMS. My Pastor feels if that is what the Holy Spirit wants then I should not resist. It is primarily a story about my Pastor and his family and what we went through In the separation of the heterodox Lutherans (religious Pharisees) from us orthodox Lutherans who live by faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ. My Pastor is as Lutheran as they come BTW.
It has nothing to do with heresy or criminal behavior. It has much to do with the Pharisee inability to control him. The LCMS gets involved and it is not pretty.

As to writing a book, I have never done it. When I found 2 Lutherans on FR the idea came to start a dialog to see if a book is a good idea. I am still in that process. xone has been a champion for the LCMS in our discussion which may be a good thing. I do not know. I do not even know what the purpose for the book is. I could do it as fiction or nonfiction. I do not expect any of you to research what we have discussed this is just a gut check should I proceed or stop or stop doing it on FR? Maybe the Holy Spirit will tell my FRiends something. Thank You and God Bless you all.

915 posted on 06/03/2011 11:26:39 AM PDT by marbren
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