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To: marbren

marbren wrote:
“When you say dispensational delusions I assume you include replacement theology.”

Then you assume wrongly. I reject dispensationalism in all its forms. It is wholly unscriptural. As for “replacement theology,” it is a term whose very foundation and framing I reject.

marbren also wrote:
“Would you agree that the only allies Israel has today are the Christians that agree with my thesis that Israel and the church have different roles in God’s plan?”

No. I don’t agree with your thesis, and I consider myself an ally of Israel. I have been so for my whole life. Nothing will change that. And I know many, many others who think similarly.

marbren also wrote:
“I think antisemitism is getting worse than it ever has been. Do you not see the whole world including the USA turning against Israel?”

I don’t think antisemitism is getting worse than it has ever been. It has been awfully bad at particular times, as a truly careful examination of history will reveal to anyone who will take the effort to look. And it has never been right. As for these days, there is little doubt that the rise in fervor of the radical wing of Islam is helping push more people into a frame of mind that can be manipulated into antisemitism.

Unfortunately, we live in an age of history when, as has happened several times before, islamic ideology, which is a very unhealthy mix of religion and government, is particularly aggressive. What makes them seem more powerful than they are is the very pervasiveness of western media through which they have learned how to manipulate us, exploiting our fears and weakness as well as our general inclination to avoid unnecessary conflict. The media, together with the political left, has also managed to encourage western self-loathing, which the muslims are all too willing to assist them with. Islam are not allies against western civilization, but they share it as an enemy, and thus could be termed co-belligerents.

Just as a point of trivia, my first year Hebrew teacher was a reserve tank commander in the IDF. She is only one of the many Jews I have known in my life, and in some cases, still know. Most are/were simply acquaintances, but a few I count friends, as with all people I have known in my life. I am not unfamiliar with the realities of Israel either past or present.


872 posted on 05/30/2011 4:54:09 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Belteshazzar
My life experience includes antisemitism because my Father was antisemitic, and my church taught me about, how the church took over Israel in God's plan. I was very proud of this. I am no longer antisemitic because of God's grace. I no longer am an alcoholic because of God's grace.

Getting back to Lutheran rules. What would a God pleasing result be, according to the rules and book of Concord, if the Pastor went into a coma? I am talking about removal because He is unable to serve. This rule is dangerous. I would guess it is in most Lutheran Church constitutions in America. Is it in the Book of Concord? What is the standard for unable to serve?

Heresy is an obvious reason for removal of a Pastor. Let's say P#4 believed in the separate roles of Israel and the church, which he does not BTW, Is this cause for removal due to heresy? Criminal behavior is also a good standard to remove a Pastor IMO.

886 posted on 05/31/2011 7:34:18 AM PDT by marbren
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