[xone]

I've covered the pride angle before with you. With a large scattered family all the country, when I visited their home churches I don't see it either. Perhaps it is a regional issue as well as the 'national racism'.

BTW is there a good kind of pride?

Of course there is, pride in a job well done, pride in a child achievements, pride in honorable service. And as I've told you before pride in a wonderful tool that allows you more easily to do God's work. Libs sound like this? Some have given in to their re-definition of the english language. Pride doesn't neccessarily bring haughtiness. The vets I honor today are proud of their service as am I and righteously so. Yet some still exhibit the negative side of pride on this thread, not in the Lutheran doctrine but in their own ability in their own eyes to fault sinful men for misapplication of solid doctrine based on God's Word without proof.

[marbren]

Hi Alamo-Girl, xone and I are talking about pride. I, being anal like I am, do not like the word pride. I may even be willing to grow and change if you think I am too legalistic. The subject we are really talking about is the pride we have in the LCMS Lutheran doctrine being the best Christian doctrine available to mankind.

xone makes some interesting points:

Of course there is, pride in a job well done, pride in a child achievements, pride in honorable service. And as I've told you before pride in a wonderful tool that allows you more easily to do God's work. Libs sound like this? Some have given in to their re-definition of the english language. Pride doesn't neccessarily bring haughtiness. The vets I honor today are proud of their service as am I and righteously so. Yet some still exhibit the negative side of pride on this thread, not in the Lutheran doctrine but in their own ability in their own eyes to fault sinful men for misapplication of solid doctrine based on God's Word without proof.

Can we ever take the glory for ourselves?