When I was church treasurer for 6 years I had absolute control. Not one dime was spent without my approval.
But what are you saying about Him? Is it Scriptural? Is it what He said He wanted? Are you assisting in bringing people to be baptized, or is it just fun?
I hope it is God pleasing we all see through a glass dimly, FR is a good place to talk about Our Lord Jesus Christ. I have several FRiends who have taught me much about the Lord.
About what? Which side did you choose, are choosing?
I am sure being the self righteous Lutheran I was I was against seminex. ELCA to me is dead. Part of what I am exploring is the LCMS also dead. (sorry)
That's great, what are his fruits of the Spirit? How do you and he measure that awesome growth?
He was the first one to get me to think outside my preconceived notions. Maybe that is why I started drinking.
I have news for you, that continues until you are dead. Better to learn from the experience of others, especially in the case of negative consequences.
I totally agree! Once we are ripe God picks us and takes us home.
From your earlier description of Pastor #1, this is also something you learned yourself. It didn't come from him or his preaching.
You may be right, but what if it did, and how do you know?
Your church, not the Church. If your membership is confused as you seem to be, I am not surprised.
Part of what I am exploring is the LCMS also dead. (sorry)
Don't be sorry, if that is the way you see it, but have the integrity and honor since you seem unable to follow the doctrine, to resign your position as a leader and move your church home. This thread is proof enough that you have made a change in your beliefs that is incompatible with your confirmation vow. As an elder, if you espouse this, you have an obligation to resign, do it before you sow confusion amongst your congregation and those you serve.
He was the first one to get me to think outside my preconceived notions. Maybe that is why I started drinking
A rousing endorsement.
You may be right, but what if it did, and how do you know?
You said he was a good pator, being familiar with them, I know, in any case it isn't doctrinal to preach what you say you ended up with. So either he was unfaithful, or you were. AFAIK, he hasn't posted a vanity of this type, you have, so I going to have to go with you for Heterodoxy for $100 Alex.
I totally agree! Once we are ripe God picks us and takes us home.
Again you miss the point.