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To: xone
Job Is very interesting. Most people think it is about Job's great Faith. My understanding is that it is more about God's grace. Job's journey to being poor in spirit. Was Job poor in spirit at the start of the book?

Job 1:1 (King James Version) Job 1 1There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

What does this verse tell you about Job? It sounds like me in my teenage years.

732 posted on 05/25/2011 2:24:45 PM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren
Job 1 1There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

Was Job poor in spirit at the start of the book?

????

What does this verse tell you about Job? It sounds like me in my teenage years.

If you think that sounds like you as a teen-ager, you didn't learn anything from pastor #1. That you would say this now at 35 means you have learned little since. If Job had been poor in Spirit at the beginning of Job, how would he be: 'perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.'? Did you read 38:1-4? Can you give me a synopsis of it ie what does it mean to you?

Again I have to ask, Isn't Christ's resurrection from the dead a miracle enough for you? Laying aside what His death and resurrection means for you, just the physical truth of the matter. Objectively, not subjectively please.

733 posted on 05/25/2011 2:37:57 PM PDT by xone
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BTW, the questions/comments in #730/731 are some of the ‘hard questions’ you said you wanted to talk about with an LCMS Lutheran.


734 posted on 05/25/2011 2:40:36 PM PDT by xone
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To: marbren
Most people think it is about Job's great Faith. My understanding is that it is more about God's grace.

How is Job's faith and God's Grace separated? Do you know anything about Grace scripturally? Are you sure you went to a LCMS church? Even the liberal pastors teach this. You say you were taught Luther's Small Catechism, did you ever read it? No one could have objectively read it and come away with a statement like this. Now c'mon marbren were you ever in the LCMS? Your scriptural foundation is demonstrably weak, you see no connection between faith and grace, and you have demonstrated an inability to follow doctrine you declared at your 'confirmation' you would. I've never seen an LCMS 'lutheran' like you, and I've been one much longer than you've been alive, and this is most certainly true!

755 posted on 05/25/2011 10:33:01 PM PDT by xone
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