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To: bronx2
>>Most of your rant is self serving non biblical sourced which appears to be denying the word of God.<<

Non biblically sourced? Denying the word of God?

In John 14:26 we see that Jesus inspired the Apostles with His Word. John 14:26, “But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you.” (ASV) Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would be given so that the Apostles will have brought to their remembrance all that Jesus taught, i.e., Jesus wants to pass on to the world through the Apostles not their wisdom, not their insight, but His own Word! Jesus, remember, is the high point of God’s revelation. Jesus turns to the Apostles and says, “The Spirit will bring to your mind everything that I have taught.” The Apostles were spokesmen for Christ, authorized to speak His Word, not their own, but to have brought to their remembrance what He had taught.

Even our Lord Jesus Christ, when not appealing to His own inherent authority, clinched His arguments with His opponents by saying, “It stands written!” or “Have you not read” in the Bible? He said, “Ye search the scriptures, because ye think that in them ye have eternal life; and these are they which bear witness of me.” John 5:39 (ASV) In Jesus’ day, Jesus acknowledges that the appropriate approach to salvation was to search for it in the Scriptures! And you know, that in Jesus’ day, the scribes had about as much authority as has ever been given to human tradition. And yet, Jesus pointed them to the Scriptures, not to the oral tradition, not to the authority of the scribes, but to the Scriptures. And then He said, “The Scriptures bear witness of Me!”

In the New Testament, the “spirit of error” was to be identified by comparing whatever the prophets are saying to the teaching of the Apostles. In I John 4:6, the Apostle John says, “He who knows God hears us!” That’s the standard; what we have taught! In I Corinthians 14:37, Paul says, “If any man thinks himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him take knowledge of the things which I write unto you, that they are the commandment of the Lord.” And yet, even the Apostles called for the Church to test their own instruction according to the written revelation of God, according to the Scriptures which were in hand.

Why did Paul commend the Bereans? What were the Bereans doing? In Acts 17:11, you’ll read of this commendation because (he says) “they examined the Scriptures daily whether these things were so,” i.e., the things taught by Paul. Paul commends that; and he’s an Apostle! He’s got ‘Power of Attorney’ for the Lord Jesus Christ. He speaks with the authority of the Savior Himself! And yet, even with that Apostolic authority, Paul commends them, because when they wanted to test what he was saying, they went to the written Scriptures to see if these things were so.

In I Corinthians 4:6, we have what amounts to a virtual declaration of the Protestant doctrine or principle of Sola Scriptura! I Corinthians 4:6, Paul says, “Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us you might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other.” Paul says, “Brothers, I have applied (I’ve used a figure of speech) I’ve applied these things (I think he’s referring here “these things” about pride in men, or in their ministries) — I’ve applied these things to myself and to Apollos for your benefit in order that you might learn by us,” the saying, “not to go beyond the things which are written.

“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8-9

Need more scriptural proof? I’m sure you would follow the “church fathers” advice wouldn’t you?

"They[heretics] gather their views from other sources than the Scriptures...We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith"
- Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 3.1.1

"I beg of you, my dear brother to live among these books [scripture], to meditate upon them, to know nothing else, to seek nothing else."
- Jerome (Letter 53:10)

"For how can we adopt those things which we do not find in the holy Scriptures?"
Ambrose (On the Duties of the Clergy, 1:23:102)

Need more? I’ve got lots more if you need! I’ll follow the words of the Apostles and Jesus Himself thank you very much.

You can read more at: http://www.christiantruth.com/articles/bahnsen.html

371 posted on 05/22/2011 9:07:17 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Thank you for posting this.


373 posted on 05/22/2011 9:22:44 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: CynicalBear
If one reads the provided references with elementary comprehension and a discerning eye, one would find no support for sola scriptura. Support of the written word is not tantamount to support of sola scriptura. That is the salient point which one must fathom but apparently fails to resonate with you.

I have listened to all the augments from the sola crowd and their best cherry picked bible verses support the written word but not sola scriptura. Once you grasp this concept recognizing the vast difference between biblical support for the written word but no support for sola scriptura you begin see how your rant fails. How could the bible support sola theory when this myth was not invented until the reformation.

You use the same tired arguments as most of the sola adherents but fail to exercise the logic to discern the difference elaborated above.

It would be better for you to review the history of Sola Scriptura and see how the meaning of this inane theory has evolved since the reformation. This evolution of meaning is as embarrassing to your post as any Harold Camping , the poster child who argued your positions using similar bible quotes. How sad.

Put you trust in Jesus not some imperfect sola theory.

376 posted on 05/22/2011 10:04:23 AM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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