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To: stfassisi
Than you agree with Catholic/Orthodox belief- that God does not WILL ANY sin to happen or He would be moved by Willing something other than love?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "will any sin to happen". God creates the circumstance and the conditions. And He knows that we will sin. But sin itself is the result of us when we are tempted by our lusts.

A prime example is Adam in the Garden. The tree was planted, Adam was instructed, God was there and did nothing to prevent Adam from reaching out and taking the fruit when offered. God certainly wasn't the author of sin. But He certain created the conditions and He knew what would happen.

Why the fall of Adam is considered a mystery I can't explain. If Adam had not fallen we would not know our own failings nor understand how dependent we must be on God.

Be careful,hd. There are people who justify euthanasia and abortion by this kind of thinking

One cannot justify sinful behavior with the excuse of God's timing. When David murdered Uriah, it certainly was Uriah's time to die but it was the result of David's sin. When Naaman was killed by Jezebel for his vineyard, God allow it but at a price that Jezebel and Ahab would pay several years later. It's no better than Adam's response in the Garden that the woman YOU gave me cause me to do this. That doesn't fly. While God controls the events, our sins are our own lusts to show us our failings. When believers sin like David, there is a price to be paid. In his case he spent the rest of his life with a troubled family. When unbelievers mock God or kill His saints, in due time their foot will slip.

People can try and do justify all sorts of sinful actions. Sin is still sin and it will have consequences.

48 posted on 05/23/2011 5:57:51 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
God creates the circumstance and the conditions.

Sin is always a free decision un-created by God,it is man and satan who creates circumstances and conditions for man to sin-God creates circumstances and conditions for man NOT to sin or God is moved to create a sinful condition from a loving condition not to sin

Why the fall of Adam is considered a mystery I can't explain?

Stop denying free will that allowed lucifer to have pride and you can explain it very easily,dear brother

People can try and do justify all sorts of sinful actions. Sin is still sin and it will have consequences. We agree on this!

How is that gifted son of yours doing these days?

You must be getting closer to college decision soon

I have busy work week and can not respond for awhile

I wish you a blessed week!

49 posted on 05/23/2011 6:22:38 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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