Are we seeing the Drought mentioned in the Book of Joel that heralds the Day of the Lord?

RITA ^ | May 14th, 2011

[TaraP]

Are we seeing the Drought mentioned in the Book of Joel that heralds the Day of the Lord?

Israel's seventh consecutive year of drought (3/29/11) http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=214229

Europe Wheat Harvest to Fall on Drought, May Be Catastrophic (5/6/11) http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-06/europe-wheat-harvest-to-fall-on-drought-may-be-catastrophic-agritel-says.html

Drought Monitor: Texas still parched (5/5/11) http://www.cattlenetwork.com/cattle-news/Drought-Monitor-Historic-tornado-outbreak-and-flooding-in-Southeast-121321219.html

US Drought Monitor - Drought and Floods hitting our Bread Basket and Beef Producers http://www.drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html

Russian drought (2/10/11) http://blogs.wsj.com/source/tag/russian-drought/

Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.

Is not the meat cut off before our eyes, yea, joy and gladness from the house of our God?

The seed is rotten under their clods, the garners are laid desolate, the barns are broken down; for the corn is withered.

How do the beasts groan! the herds of cattle are perplexed, because they have no pasture; yea, the flocks of sheep are made desolate.

O LORD, to thee will I cry: for the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness, and the flame hath burned all the trees of the field.

The beasts of the field cry also unto thee: for the rivers of waters are dried up, and the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness. (Joel 1:15-20)

[wolfcreek]

Reckon whose fault that might be? The FedGov?

[marbren]

Hi Alamo-Girl, GiovannaNicoletta (BTW, I like to fully type out her name because I like the way it sounds), Is presenting something new to me and I have to admit it may be a revelation. Up until today I gave the people who believe in replacement theology the benefit of the doubt and it is no big deal in the scheme of things

Then GiovannaNicoletta posts these types of statements:

So yes, the stubborn belief in replacement theology, unless it is something that a person repents of as part of coming to Christ for salvation, can be reason for God turning those who refuse to repent over to the delusion which will prevail during the Tribulation

Now I find myself staring to agree with her.

Alamo-Girl, I do not believe you or I have discussed replacement theology. If you do agree with it wow that would cause some confusion for me.

I know you believe it Mad-Dawg but maybe you are like my Pastor and the Holy Spirit is just about to reveal the truth to you.

GiovannaNicoletta can the understanding come after justification and during sanctification as it may have in my experience? I do admit a major amount of my spiritual growth, such as it is, happened after I gave up my preconceived notions and asked the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth about Israel to me.

BTW, I love you all!

[marbren]

They prefer conspiracy theories with no facts

What if there is:

1 the official story

2 conspiracy theory

3 the truth

The idea that conspiracy theories may be a cover up is new to me in the last few weeks.

Just to keep it clear, I am talking about the JFK assassination.

[marbren]

Or another way to look at it this may be how satan always does it with his lies:

1 the official story: Replacement theology

2 conspiracy theory: Camping etc.

3 the truth: GOD KEEPS HIS PROMISES TO ISRAEL

[TruthConquers]

I guess you couldn’t be bothered to read my post.
Here it is:

“There is something troubling here.
It is something Rush said in the days after 9-11.
It was about AbleDanger.
And it was this: “We aren’t going to get an accounting about why AbleDanger was shut down because BOTH PARTIES WERE INVOLVED.”
Both parties were involved in shutting down AbleDanger prior to 9-11.
Does this mean that the government blew up the buildings? NO.
BUT something IS going on, something they KNEW about, and I think the dems are trying to cover their tracks with a smear campaign.

IMHO

And this whole line of thought leaves me wondering WHAT ELSE DO THEY KNOW?

very troubling indeed.”

AND that doesn’t even touch Jamie Gorlick, who after that escpade, went on to make MILLIONS FROM FANNIE MAE, before the housing crash. Talk about pay back for a job well done. (AND she was on the 9-11 Commission)

Or did you forget?

[wolfcreek]

It’s an open and shut case, don’t ya know? (according to some)

Doomed to repeat it.

[Alamo-Girl]

I am very much against all forms of replacement theology.

God keeps all of His promises. Every. Single. One.

But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, [and] the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts [is] his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, [then] the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD. - Jer 31:33-37

The total number and types of dimensions are both unknown and unknowable. God has not cast off the seed of Israel.

And the Song of Moses will be sung along with the Song of the Lamb:

And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, [and] over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. And they sing the song of Moses; the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous [are] thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true [are] thy ways, thou King of saints. Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for [thou] only [art] holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest. – Rev 15:2-4

This is prophecy.

The Song of Moses (Deut 32) was from God.

Now therefore write ye this song for you, and teach it the children of Israel: put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel. - Deut 31:19

Then the prophecy:

They have moved me to jealousy with [that which is] not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with [those which are] not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. – Deuteronomy 32:21

Explained here:

But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by [them that are] no people, [and] by a foolish nation I will anger you. - Romans 10:19

I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but [rather] through their fall salvation [is come] unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. - Romans 11:11

And then the prophecy as it concerns replacement theology:

Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, [take heed] lest he also spare not thee.

Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his] goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural [branches], be graffed into their own olive tree?

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes.

For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance. - Romans 11:18-29

The Jews are not yet "jealous" but they will be - note the Names of God revealed here:

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. - Revelation 1:7-8

And again,

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven, and [things] in earth, and [things] under the earth; And [that] every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ [is] Lord, to the glory of God the Father. - Philippians 2:10-11

Maranatha, Jesus!!!

[TruthConquers]

There is no doubt about that.

Lord, have mercy of those who trust and follow you.

[marbren]

Amen! Thank You Alamo-Girl for those wonderful scriptures. The Word of God has spoken.

Maranatha, Jesus!!!

[Alamo-Girl]

Praise God!!!

And thank you for your encouragement, dear brother in Christ!

[SaraJohnson]

Are you even slightly coherent to the fact that her legal *wall* created intelligence gaps that might of led to us STOPPING this plot before it happened?

Now I can’t say if it was proposeful or not but, it damn sure didn’t help our cause.

BTW: She worked for the government and the Clinton admin.

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The other major mess Clinton created thereby opening us to terror attacks was shifting the DOJ from going after Islamic radicals in the aftermath of the first attempt on the World Trade Towers. They decided instead to go after “right wing extremists” - the left’s political enemies. Obama is doing the same thing now.

And, given FBI papers recently released, jihadists were involved in the Oklah. City bombing and Clinton covered that up so he’d have a political excuse to blame his political enemies.

The 911 commission, with coverupgirl Gorlick on the panel and Sandy Berger with documents in his pants, was missing huge pieces of the puzzle in reviewing what led up to and happened on 911.

[marbren]

don’t forget TWA 800

[SaraJohnson]

True, but even if you take that as a premise, there are no facts and no benefits to it. it’s just another baseless conspiracy theory

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At this point it is baseless, but we still have too many unanswered questions about 911 and what led up to it given the Clintonistas were supposed to be on guard in light of the first jihadist attempt to blow up the towers.

What did Sandy Berger have in his pants and why was he so desparate to go to the extent of smuggling out documents under review by the commission? They were hiding something big from the American people. How did it end up being all Bush’s fault when all the plans and preparations were carried out under Clinton who purposefully diverted FBI attention away from Islamists even after they tried to bomb the WTT the first time? Then there is the cover up of John Doe number two and McVeigh’s connections to Islamists that were covered up in the aftermath of that attack...

Because these actions and many questions were covered up by Gorlick and her pals on the 911 commission, you may as well get used to people trying to fill in the missing data, aka, conspiracy theories. Americans are not known for permiting a corrupt political elite to decieve and cover up their actions. I still want answers.

[SaraJohnson]

Yes, who could forget TWA 800. There was so much corruption and deceiving going on back then! We don’t have all the answers and it is important that Americans never forget it.

[marbren]

Watch out SaraJohnson you may be called a conspiracy nut. Now if and when they do do you think it might be their job?

[SaraJohnson]

I’m more like a “wasn’t born yesterday” nut. :)

[marbren]

New one for me today. Maybe the antichrist is Judas.

http://www.rejoicetv.org/MessageViewer.aspx?f=051511_JESUS_and_the_Son_of_Perdition.mp3

[wolfcreek]

In today’s world, there’s very little that isn’t a conspiracy. Especially if it involve money, power or politics.

Thanks for helping to remind some of these “da gubmit done made me make up mah mind” folks.