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To: UriÂ’el-2012
There is one scripture that has piqued my interest however, if someone would care to explain what it means...

As well it should since your presuppositions are all wrong (OK, maybe not the Psalm 90 reference, but nonetheless, it is irrelevant)

Yah'shua is saying that we will know the season of His coming

The Kingdom is already here Luke 22:18 says that our LORD would not eat or drink with them until the Kingdom of God has come. In Acts 10:41 we read that soon after He rose from the dead, He ate and drank with the disciples.

The fig tree has always bee associated with Israel.

That is pure fiction generated by the Futurists, there are no passages in Scripture that associate the Fig Tree with the secular nation of Israel, ethnic Jews, or, for that matter any people or nation. Many ignorant people look at Matthew 24:32-34 and think that the Fig Tree is Israel because they want it to be and thus they eisegete that fantasy into the passage with absolutely zero support other than wishful thinking. Otherwise, please explain Luke 21:29-33 which says "Behold the fig tree, and all the other trees"

But if Futurists demand it based on some extra-biblical tradition or that it is mortal to their camp-fire story, then ask yourself this: "If the Fig Tree is Israel, then what do we make of the Curse against the Fig Tree whereupon God caused it to wither and die?" (Matthew 21:19) Because you have an even bigger problem with handling the death of Israel statement direct from God's mouth "Let no fruit grow on thee heceforward for ever." Naturally, the Futurists hate this passage and have ripped it from their Bibles since it kills the whole Fig = Israel = Grand Future theory.

Israel will 70 years old in 2018.

This is called "moving the field goal". The whole age of Israel foolishness was made largely to deal with the wresting of Mt 24:34 "this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." because Futurists want to be in on the action and can't possibly have anything really fulfilled before they were around to witness and experience it, "this generation" actually meant "that generation" and "generation" was transmogrified from the people standing before him, to a secular UN creation in the 20th century thousands of years from the "very soon" comment made by our LORD. A generation was always considered to be forty years, and thus every Dispensationalist/Futurist was pegging their Rapture on the date of the Jewish calendar's New Year using the Roman Catholic Gregorian calendar 1988 - naturally combining a traditional Jewish calendar with a calendar not yet in existence by over a millennia and a half at the time of the prediction (these are prime example of Futurist logic and interpretational hermeneutics.)

But if you talk to Tim LaHaye, author of the wildly popular "Left Behind" series and considered THE authority and pillar of the Futurist cabal, originally had the birth date of Israel back at the signing of the Balfour Declaration of 1917. Even with your "70 year" theory, that still places it at or around 1988 which as we all know was not the date of the alleged "rapture".

In Psalm 90 Moses states the length of a mans life as three score and ten.

I really can't imagine, other than the pathology of wanting to be "that generation" that experiences the alleged "Rapture" why this would matter in any context. First of all, didn't you just compare Israel to a tree? If so, then what does that have to do with the life span of a human? If you are trying to reckon the years for a generation, you are asking more out of the word than it can bare. Generally speaking, a "generation" is not a period of time as so much as it means "the people of this time". Let's say that our LORD meant forty years, since forty years is the magic number gratuitously assigned to redefine a generation by the Futurists. So when He said "this generation", what was year zero for that generation for when they start counting? In Futurist's parlance, clearly that stopwatch doesn't get flicked on to at least two thousand years later. And is it Balfour as LaHaye originally advocated or is it 1948 when younger people who want to be in on the action claim it to be?

If you want to do some synthesis to generate a more meaningful number, I'll give you "100" as the number of years in a generation based on Genesis 15:13,16. "they shall afflict them four hundred years"(13) followed by the divisor "in the fourth generation they shall come hither again". I do this as a public service and because I don't want you to walk away with the idea that all I want to do is shoot down theories - you have a new date to look forward to 2048.

So go forth and enjoy the life God gave you and put aside this foolish speculation about a fantasy Rapture. When our LORD returns, it won't be a U-Turn somewhere at cruising altitude for modern jet-craft, it will be to come and judge the Earth once and for all.

31 posted on 05/13/2011 5:59:57 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: The Theophilus
U-2012>Yah'shua is saying that we will know the season of His coming

The Kingdom is already here Luke 22:18 says that our LORD would not eat or drink with them until the Kingdom of God has come. In Acts 10:41 we read that soon after He rose from the dead, He ate and drank with the disciples.

Be like a Berean ; search the scriptures daily.
NAU Luke 22:18 for I say to you,
I will not drink of the fruit of the vine
from now on until the kingdom of God comes."

Acts 10:41 not to all the people, but to witnesses
who were chosen beforehand by God, that is, to us
who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead.

I do not follow your Eisegesis.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
48 posted on 05/16/2011 1:53:56 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: The Theophilus
U-2012>The fig tree has always bee associated with Israel.

That is pure fiction generated by the Futurists, there are no passages in Scripture that associate the Fig Tree with the secular nation of Israel, ethnic Jews, or, for that matter any people or nation. Many ignorant people look at Matthew 24:32-34 and think that the Fig Tree is Israel because they want it to be and thus they eisegete that fantasy into the passage with absolutely zero support other than wishful thinking. Otherwise, please explain Luke 21:29-33 which says "Behold the fig tree, and all the other trees"

But if Futurists demand it based on some extra-biblical tradition or that it is mortal to their camp-fire story, then ask yourself this: "If the Fig Tree is Israel, then what do we make of the Curse against the Fig Tree whereupon God caused it to wither and die?" (Matthew 21:19) Because you have an even bigger problem with handling the death of Israel statement direct from God's mouth "Let no fruit grow on thee heceforward for ever." Naturally, the Futurists hate this passage and have ripped it from their Bibles since it kills the whole Fig = Israel = Grand Future theory.

THE WITHERED FIG TREE

NO. 2107

DELIVERED ON LORD’S-DAY MORNING,

SEPTEMBER 29TH, 1889,

BY C. H. SPURGEON,

AT THE METROPOLITAN TABERNACLE, NEWINGTON

If you were to read this sermon,
you would learn who the fig-tree is
and why the fig tree was cursed.

Seek the face of YHvH in His WORD

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
50 posted on 05/16/2011 3:09:30 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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