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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
so your mind tells you

No, again it's not just my individual mind operating in some kind of a vacuum.

As I said, the body of saints includes those of the Old Testament, many of whom are cited in Hebrews 11. They had saving faith, but did not undergo baptism. Obviously baptism is not necessary for salvation.

The thief on the cross is in Paradise; he did not undergo baptism.

These are scriptural facts. You only cite some fallible men. You can argue with Scripture if you like. I (not operating in a vacuum on my own...many, many church leaders believe believe the same) choose not to.

109 posted on 05/09/2011 7:15:42 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

more vanity, scripture clearly teaches baptismal regeneration, the universal Church has taught this doctrine for 2,000 years, because it was received from the Apostles. i don’t point to fallible men, i point to the infallible Church, given authority by Jesus Himself. you claim to be part of this universal church, but you are actually in rebellion against it. Jesus prayed in John 17 we all be one, but your “mind” won’t allow for this. Again, do you understand the audacity of what you are saying, the “pillar of truth” didn’t understand baptism for 16 centuries? the idolatry of worshipping your mind must be very strong indeed. the very men God chose to set the canon of Scripture didn’t understand baptism, unbelievable.


110 posted on 05/09/2011 7:27:30 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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