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Catholicism let go of the idea that the Earth is the center of the universe and accepts that evolution happened, but it still views mankind as having a special place in the cosmos, shaped partly by evolution and partly by the divine endowment of a soul. The Catholic scientists also see mankind - or some rational being - as part of the purpose of evolution.

Catholics "cannot accept evolution as we scientists accept it - as an unguided, materialistic process with no goal or direction," said University of Chicago biologist Jerry Coyne, who writes about science and religion in his blog, "Why Evolution Is True." All agree there is order and majesty in nature. But they disagree over how it got here....

....The late paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould wrote that if the clock were wound back to the age of the dinosaurs and evolution was again allowed to take its course, the process would lead to a completely different mix of living things - a mix unlikely to include us. Some Catholic scientists, such as University of Pennsylvania paleontologist Peter Dodson, say Gould may be right.

"Perhaps we'd get intelligent penguins" the second time around, he said.

THAT'S NOT FUNNY!

1 posted on 05/09/2011 9:16:51 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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2 posted on 05/09/2011 9:17:21 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: Alex Murphy

Evolution occurred at the hand of God. Starting billions of years ago.

Flame away.


3 posted on 05/09/2011 9:19:57 AM PDT by RockinRight (Can't think of anything to say...)
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To: Alex Murphy

glad I got drawn away from the genetics world into physics, et al. Too many of these folks come off sounding like fruitcakes.


5 posted on 05/09/2011 9:44:33 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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Catholics "cannot accept evolution as we scientists accept it - as an unguided, materialistic process with no goal or direction,"

This is a truly silly statement.

True science deals only with the results obtained. We exit the realm of science when we proclaim there was or was not a goal or direction.

Science just doesn't have anything to say about this. All science can say is that we don't SEE evidence of goal or direction. But any true scientist will agree that "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

6 posted on 05/09/2011 9:45:46 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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Catholicism let go of the idea that the Earth is the center of the universe

Actually, this is not a scientific fact.

Physically, scientists contend the universe has no center. So saying the earth is the physical center is no more or less accurate than assigning the center to any other location.

Science has nothing at all to say about whether the earth is "the center of the universe" in a moral, spiritual or importance sense. If the Son of God came here and died for mankind, and potentially for all intelligent beings, then it would be the center of the universe in all these senses.

7 posted on 05/09/2011 9:51:39 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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The Inquirer plays “Fun With Deliberate Misquotes!”


8 posted on 05/09/2011 9:53:31 AM PDT by dangus
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Prov 16:33 The dice are cast into the lap, but every result is from the Lord.

Atomic decays cannot be predicted and appear to obey a random disintegration frequency.

Mutations cannot be predicted and appear to obey a random distribution pattern (with some mutations being more frequent than others due to mechanistic factors).

A dice roll cannot be predicted and appears to obey a random distribution pattern.

Knowing this it seems strange to me that evolution is always attributed to be “random and thus Godless” - yet nobody seems to claim the same for Physics or games of chance at the Casino. I.O.W. I have yet to hear someone opine that God's power stops at the Casino door.

So why the big bugaboo about randomness only in regard to biological evolution but not anywhere else?

18 posted on 05/09/2011 10:30:01 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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We could do with a lot of Mother Angelicas, in or out of penguin suit.;-)

What the above does not take into account the party line of the Evolutionists since the beginning, which is 1) human beings are simply intelligent animals and 2) that our lives are meaningless excerpt as they contribute to our survival, and no even our individual lives but the species, and that evenb the species does not deserve the high respect that tradition gives to it. Beasts do not covenant with the Lord; if there is a “higher power,” then we are but slaves to it.


19 posted on 05/09/2011 10:35:50 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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Some Catholic scientists, such as University of Pennsylvania paleontologist Peter Dodson, say Gould may be right. "Perhaps we'd get intelligent penguins" the second time around, he said.

It all sort of depends on when the "design" phase ended.

32 posted on 05/09/2011 6:06:27 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Time to raise Cain.)
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