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To: MarkBsnr
Or else it means that the authors were dumber than Oprah talking to Obama and it took the Church to reconcile what they had written.

Why would God pick someone like that to write down his own words and thoughts, all too well knowing the stories will come out scrambled? This just doesn't compute. We are talking an all-knowing, all-powerful God who is always somehow ends up behind the curve. Something is seriously amiss here, imo.

Take for instance the Fall. Was that a surprise or a plan? What about God's reaction in Gen 6:6? Or look at all the trouble he went through getting his own people to stay true to him? Or the price that had to be paid (crucifixion!) to fix things. He is constantly fixing...

And now you tell matter-of-factly that he dictated his words to a bunch of people who (he should have known) would scramble the message, which will require centuries of fixing? After all that how can this be an all-seeing, all-knowing perfect deity???

I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will know." [Gen 18:12]

God has to come down (sic) and see if they had done something and only then he will know! So, he then reveals his secrets to a bunch of dumb fishermen who can't get the story right, only so the Church can interpret what's true as an afterthought, so that after a great deal of chewing, manipulation, changing, editing, choreography, etc. we may "know" what God really said or meant!? You can't be serious, Mark.

If we do not believe the Church, why then, we may believe in nothing, or else whatever we come up with in the morning between waking and breakfast

Well, this is a problem we encounter we people in whom we lose trust. Once you see through them and see they are nto what they amde themsleves out to be, you lose faith in them. And, once you see through and lose faith in man-made religions we can't believe anything else.

Does that mean there is no God (whatever God may be)? Of course not! It simply means God is not as man  created him in his fancy.

31 posted on 04/25/2011 10:06:33 PM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50

who is always = who always


32 posted on 04/25/2011 11:33:14 PM PDT by kosta50
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Why would God pick someone like that to write down his own words and thoughts, all too well knowing the stories will come out scrambled? This just doesn't compute. We are talking an all-knowing, all-powerful God who is always somehow ends up behind the curve. Something is seriously amiss here, imo.

Well, look at His audience.

Take for instance the Fall. Was that a surprise or a plan? What about God's reaction in Gen 6:6? Or look at all the trouble he went through getting his own people to stay true to him? Or the price that had to be paid (crucifixion!) to fix things. He is constantly fixing...

He definitely created a bunch of mindless invertebrates. So? That is His prerogative, is it not?

God has to come down (sic) and see if they had done something and only then he will know! So, he then reveals his secrets to a bunch of dumb fishermen who can't get the story right, only so the Church can interpret what's true as an afterthought, so that after a great deal of chewing, manipulation, changing, editing, choreography, etc. we may "know" what God really said or meant!? You can't be serious, Mark.

God does not have to live up to my standards, Kosta. I just have to live up to His.

Well, this is a problem we encounter we people in whom we lose trust. Once you see through them and see they are nto what they amde themsleves out to be, you lose faith in them. And, once you see through and lose faith in man-made religions we can't believe anything else.

I trust in Him and in the Church. I lost my Faith and then found it again. I don't expect Him to abide by my standards.

Does that mean there is no God (whatever God may be)? Of course not! It simply means God is not as man created him in his fancy.

Amen.

33 posted on 04/27/2011 3:20:11 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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