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To: buccaneer81; boatbums

I don’t think boatbums is a bad person. It bugs me to see you pile on her. I don’t think she’s right all the time, but I think she presses her case as fairly as many and far more fairly than some.

I do think the conversation is skewed, and, frankly, I think the skewing shows that the Catholic Church has a special place in the heilsgeschichte. The outrage seems to me to be pretty selective.

The steps the Catholic Church has taken,at least in the US, are generally ignored. My diocese is quite strict, as these things go. Anybody who is going to work with children has to go through some kind of program. Even though I don’t work (all my work is volunteer) with children I will be going through the program sometime this year.

Of course, there’s not much a program can do with a determined abuser. So now the diocese has a guilty until proven innocent stance. A mere allegation gets you removed from your position.

If we look across the spectrum of people who work with children, we do better than many. But any case is an outrage and there are a lot of cases.

I recently learned from a person I knew in the early seventies and remet last fall, that after I left the area the private school where she studied became a riot of teacher student sex, all of it hetero as far as I know.

When the school was confronted, it just closed ranks. All these years later, former students now in their fifties are now, well, enriching psychiatrists.

The problem seems common. The reporting seems skewed. But I guess the primary issue is for eachof us to clean house.There’s no way the Catholic church is going to get an even break in the US,and we might as well accept it.


68 posted on 04/23/2011 2:59:36 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

>>>There is no way the Catholic church is going to get an even break in the US, and we might as well accept it.<<<

Here in California, the 2003 legislature changed the statute of limitations to reopen stale abuse cases (some over 40 years old) against the Catholic Church, ONLY—

No other religious organization has been treated this way.

Meanwhile the CA Supreme Court ruled that plaintiffs, including minors, cannot sue any government entity for abuse unless the action is filed within 6 months of the abuse.


81 posted on 04/23/2011 10:39:26 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Mad Dawg

“I don’t think boatbums is a bad person. It bugs me to see you pile on her. I don’t think she’s right all the time, but I think she presses her case as fairly as many and far more fairly than some.”

I agree.


88 posted on 04/23/2011 2:06:51 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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