[starlifter]

I read the English translation on the Vatican web site (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_05091895_adiutricem_en.html)

The quotations are from others and intended to show an intense reverence for Mary. As quotes, they reflect the speakers feelings. They are, I believe, intended to show her unique relationship with God only and not that Mary is the ‘gate keeper.’ Reading the full Adiutricem made this clear...at least to me.

Ultimately, the Nicene Creed is the statement of Catholic beliefs.

[Quix]

Discerning proddys are keenly aware

that The Vatican speaks out of many sides of its many mouths and fingers about Mary.

The net result still remains

that millions of RC’s have Mary on a pedestal that

SHE HERSELF HATE, DEPLORES.