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To: tioga
I remember reading that Catholic MUST pray to Mary in order to be saved.

You NEVER read that in any official Catholic doctrine. Stop spreading heresy and outright falsehoods.

With not too much research, it seems we are learning more about your religion than you guys are...

9. Since faith is the foundation, the source, of the gifts of God by which man is raised above the order of nature and is endowed with the dispositions requisite for life eternal, we are in justice bound to recognize the hidden influence of Mary in obtaining the gift of faith and its salutary cultivation - of Mary who brought the "author of faith"[6] into this world and who, because of her own great faith, was called "blessed." "O Virgin most holy, none abounds in the knowledge of God except through thee; none, O Mother of God, attains salvation except through thee; none receives a gift from the throne of mercy except through thee."

118 posted on 04/12/2011 10:25:37 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool; starlifter; nina0113; dsutah; ThomasMore; bkaycee; MarineBrat; Quix

Iscool found a good reference here from ADIUTRICEM (On the Rosary), Encyclical of Pope Leo XIII...

“9. Since faith is the foundation, the source, of the gifts of God by which man is raised above the order of nature and is endowed with the dispositions requisite for life eternal, we are in justice bound to recognize the hidden influence of Mary in obtaining the gift of faith and its salutary cultivation - of Mary who brought the “author of faith”[6] into this world and who, because of her own great faith, was called “blessed.” “O Virgin most holy, none abounds in the knowledge of God except through thee; none, O Mother of God, attains salvation except through thee; none receives a gift from the throne of mercy except through thee.””

“”O Virgin most holy, none ... attains salvation except through thee; ...””

So it would seem that, yes, the belief is that you must go through Mary to be saved.


122 posted on 04/12/2011 10:42:38 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Iscool
That is not an official Catholic website.

As a Catholic, the only thing I am REQUIRED to believe is the Apostle's Creed....

    I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
    Creator of Heaven and Earth
    And in Jesus Christ
    His only Son, Our Lord
    Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit
    Born of the Virgin Mary
    Suffered under Pontius Pilate
    Was crucified, died and was buried.
    On the third day, he rose again
    He ascended into Heaven
    and is seated at the right hand
    of God, the Father Almighty.
    He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
    I believe in the Holy Spirit,
    the Holy Catholic Church,
    the Communion of Saints,
    the forgiveness of sins,
    the resurrection of the body,
    and life everlasting.
    Amen.

    The rest is merely writings of the saints and popes....and culture. The essence of the Catholic faith and what we are required to believe is in the creed....ALL of it.


126 posted on 04/12/2011 10:52:06 AM PDT by tioga ( Proud Proofer)
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To: Iscool

“With not too much research, it seems we are learning more about your religion than you guys are...

9. Since faith is the foundation, the source, of the gifts of God by which man is raised above the order of nature and is endowed with the dispositions requisite for life eternal, we are in justice bound to recognize the hidden influence of Mary in obtaining the gift of faith and its salutary cultivation - of Mary who brought the “author of faith”[6] into this world and who, because of her own great faith, was called “blessed.” “O Virgin most holy, none abounds in the knowledge of God except through thee; none, O Mother of God, attains salvation except through thee; none receives a gift from the throne of mercy except through thee.”

Demonic teaching from Rome.


133 posted on 04/12/2011 11:03:26 AM PDT by paulist ("there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus")
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