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Report: Human error, inadequate fire alarm contributed to Provo Tabernacle fire (Mormonism)
ABC4 (Salt Lake City) ^ | March 31, 2011

Posted on 04/10/2011 3:21:19 PM PDT by Colofornian

PROVO, Utah (ABC 4 News) - The Provo City Fire Department has released the full report on the December Provo Tabernacle fire.

The 135-page report outlines events leading up to the fire from December 17th that destroyed the historic landmark in Provo.

Trax Lighting and AV arrived at the Tabernacle a few days before the fire to setup lighting for a concert that was to be taped by BYU Broadcasting.

During the setup of a lighting truss, a technician said he set aside two lamps that were part of the in-house lighting system.

Fire officials believe these lights were placed too close to a speaker which started the fire two days later.

The report notes a number of circumstances and human errors that contributed to the unintentionally set fire.

Provo fire says the fire alarm in the building was inadequate and failed an inspection on December 2nd, two weeks before the fire.

The fire alarm system was only monitored in the building, meaning an alarm wouldn't automatically trigger a response from the fire department.

There was also not an automatic sprinkler system in the building that fire official believe would have controlled the fire.

The fire alarm system had a history of false alarms that may have have lead building personnel to "become apathetic to the system as a whole."

At 1:10am the morning of the fire, a fire alarm was triggered and a security guard disabled the alarm and did not contact the fire department, delaying a response to the fire by nearly an hour and a half.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: antimormonmanifesto; flamebait; flamewar; inman; lds; momoaner; monmophobia; monomania; mormoanism; mormon; mormophobia; provo; religiousflamewar; tabernacle
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Internal errors...layered upon errors...resulted in the destruction of this building.

Thankfully, nobody was hurt or killed.

BYU Broadcasting thought it was lighting a set for a concert. Nope. It triggered a blaze. (Just like BYU broadcasting think it's spreading a "gospel." Nope. That "gospel" version only leads to a post-this life blaze)

What about internal accountability? Any "fire detectors" -- fire alarms in the building? Nope. Failed an inspection two weeks before the fire -- just like Mormonism fails "truth detectors" that would otherwise warn Mormons to escape eternal hell.

What about linking an alarm system to the fire department? Nope. Likewise, Mormonism has insulated itself from the One Rescuer able & available to rescue it.

How about an automatic sprinkler system? Nope. Mormonism thinks it's flame-proof.

What about when the fire alarm did go off? Didn't matter. A history of what they deemed to be "false alarms" led to a security guard disabling the alarm the night of the fire...delaying a response by 90 minutes.

Likewise, whenever we sound the alarms to Mormons, they typically turn us off.

Hey, if you don't want to listen to me, understood. But why won't you listen to prophecies made by Joseph Smith?

1844 -- the year of Smith's death: "You have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves...going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one...from exaltation to exaltation, until you...are able to dwell... (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 346-347)

Hmm..."until you...are able to dwell" where? WHERE were the "ghost-lights" -- the demon-lights of Smith telling him where he & his followers would dwell??? The answer is right there on p. 347 of Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith -- a Mormon-published book: "until you...are able to dwell in everlasting BURNINGS."

Smith added that he was indeed talking about the Spirit world: "The spirits...are blessed in their departure to the world of spirits."
AND:"Enveloped in flaming fire, they are not far from us..."
Whoaaa. Smith prophesying about a place he thought we ALL should go.

By that point in his life, Smith must have felt the guilt gnawing at him from no assurance of forgiveness of sins; but he wouldn't let go of his "everlasting burnings" teaching late in life: "Those who have done wrong ALWAYS have that wrong gnawing them. Immortality dwells in everlasting burnings." (ToPJS, p. 367)

These spirits craving their own "immortality" as false gods wouldn't let go of Smith...
...and actually occasionally told him the truth...
...as they did about "everlasting burnings"... and "enveloped in flaming fire"
...They had the last laugh at Smith's -- and his followers' -- expense.

Make no mistake, Mormons. There's a fiery everlasting pain that accompanies outer darkness. The longevity words in the Book of Mormon used to describe heaven ("everlasting," "eternal") are also used to describe hell in the Book of Mormon. However long heaven; the BoM characters concluded "ditto" about hell.

1 posted on 04/10/2011 3:21:25 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Getting popcorn and soft drink ready for the flame spectacular that is about to unfold.
2 posted on 04/10/2011 3:29:33 PM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: exnavy

It may be a slow Sunday afternoon, and all that. But not this slow.

The theological significance of inadequate fire alarms and faulty equipment appears to be minimal.

The Divine Foster told me this.


3 posted on 04/10/2011 3:34:19 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

Big smile.


4 posted on 04/10/2011 3:37:56 PM PDT by exnavy (May the Lord bless and keep our troops.)
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To: Colofornian
The report notes a number of circumstances and human errors that contributed to the unintentionally set fire.

Well, darn..there goes a perfectly good "mormons persecuted AGAIN by arson fire at historic building" rumor.

It could have read, "Leaders hint that enemies repeat act of hatred similar to those in early history of the church when an extermination order was issued in Missouri, causing saints to flee to the mountain west, (except for the family of Joseph Smith who stayed and prospered.)

Church spokesperson states that "since the capital of the LDS Corporation is tied up in the construction of a four-billion dollar mall on Temple Square, there wasn't enough money left over to bring the wiring in the Provo Tabernacle up to code."

Plans to assess members for "free will" donations to rebuild a smaller, modern replacement at a cost of 3 million dollars will be announced at a later date."

5 posted on 04/10/2011 4:17:25 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (White House war strategy 2011: Sun Tzu meets Barney Fife..H/T Iowahawk)
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.... So....faulty fire alarms are proof of God’s displeasure with the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS?

Colofornian ... maybe you should take a vacation and leave this anti-mormon stuff to someone with another digit on thier IQ!


6 posted on 04/10/2011 4:25:00 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Religion Moderator
This message from the Religion Moderator is posted frequently in response to posts like yours:

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8 posted on 04/10/2011 4:43:41 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (White House war strategy 2011: Sun Tzu meets Barney Fife..H/T Iowahawk)
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To: Colofornian
Ok, so the fire alarm failed inspection two weeks previous, then why didn't they fix it.
9 posted on 04/10/2011 4:46:34 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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I’d rather have a mormon as a neighbor than a muslim.


10 posted on 04/10/2011 4:51:33 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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If you do not wish to see RF posts, do NOT use the "everything" option on the browse. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."

Excuse me, who are you?

I asked a simple question, if you don't like it take a hike.

Follow your own advise if you don't' like to see my opinion....this is an opinion forum, yes?

11 posted on 04/10/2011 4:51:37 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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Sheesh, are you so weak in your own faith that you have to bash others?

Well, let's see. In this post of yours, you're bashing me. By your own self-proclaimed standards, somebody who "bashes" is "weak" in their faith.

I guess by our own admission that makes you weak in your faith, per your personal "gospel" eh?

Who cares what they believe or do, they're not blowing up buildings or killing people...are they?

Las Vegas Ron, people outside of 'Vegas are a bit more likely to take our cultural cue from a certain "Lord" named Jesus Christ. Who are we to follow when it comes to setting cultural priorities? Jesus and the apostle Paul? or somebody who proudly dons "Las Vegas" as part of their monkier?

Here's Jesus:

"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." (Luke 12:4-5)

So does Jesus say, "fear the building destroyers>" (No)
Does Jesus say to fear murderers? (No)
Instead, does He say to exercise fear of the One who has authority to cast somebody into hell? (Yes)
So, indeed, our "fear" is on behalf of those who are placing their eternal spiritual lives at risk.

As the apostle Paul was leaving the church of Ephesus, he warned them with this high-priority alert:

"I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." (Acts 20:29-31)

Paul's cultural priority? (Defend against the false disciples who will proselytize the flock and draw away men unto themselves!)

Tell me something, Las Vegas Ron: If you did something tearfully night and day for three years, do you think it's rather important? So what? We're just to conclude, "Oh, the man who contributed a good chunk to the New Testament -- what does he know about cultural priorities?"

Besides, unlike some weak sisters 'round here, we actually know how to multi-task.

12 posted on 04/10/2011 4:54:13 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: driftdiver
I’d rather have a mormon as a neighbor than a muslim.

Big time, I've got several of them here in my Neighborhood and they're decent, good people.

Though I do not agree with their religion, I won't bash them with the obsessive fervency that goes on here.

13 posted on 04/10/2011 4:55:17 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Colofornian
Well, let's see. In this post of yours, you're bashing me.

LOL, you are weak.

14 posted on 04/10/2011 4:56:44 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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I’d rather have a mormon as a neighbor than a muslim.

Only until they converted your daughter or son (& then prevented you, a "Gentile" -- their word, not mine -- from seeing her get married in a Mormon temple 'cause you're a Gentile).

And then you get to be baptized in the Mormon temple whether you wanted to or not. Don't want to present your body or carcass for such an "event?" No matter. Mormons will still baptize you by proxy; and it'd be more certain if your next generation converted.

15 posted on 04/10/2011 4:57:36 PM PDT by Colofornian
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Besides, unlike some weak sisters 'round here, we actually know how to multi-task.

Pfft, you sound like you're trying to convince yourself in your own belief.

I don't need to by bashing others.

16 posted on 04/10/2011 5:00:30 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Colofornian

LOL...


17 posted on 04/10/2011 5:01:41 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (White House war strategy 2011: Sun Tzu meets Barney Fife..H/T Iowahawk)
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To: Colofornian

I’ve taught my children well enough that I’m not threatened by the Mormons.

I’ve known quite a few and they are generally decent people.

You don’t see them viciously attacking others like you’ve done here. You aren’t turning Mormons away and you certainly aren’t winning any of them over to Christ.

Is all this bitterness because you missed a wedding?


18 posted on 04/10/2011 5:02:12 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I love it when people name drop. Its almost like it has real meaning.


19 posted on 04/10/2011 5:03:34 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Colofornian
And then you get to be baptized in the Mormon temple whether you wanted to or not.

My FRiend, your weakness in faith of the Lord Jesus Christ need to be fulfilled by getting on your knees and praying to him to come into your heart.

It does not come from belittling those who do not see the way.

Look into your self first.

20 posted on 04/10/2011 5:04:15 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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