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To: presently no screen name; lastchance
From the CT link...

An advocacy group for people abused by priests on Wednesday asked Cook County State's Attorney Anita Alvarez to launch a grand jury investigation into the Chicago-based Jesuit province.

The plea comes after a scathing addition to three men's lawsuit was filed in Circuit Court alleging that Jesuit leaders in Chicago knew that now-defrocked Catholic priest Donald McGuire was sexually abusing underage boys and that they sought to cover it up and mislead authorities.

"We want the prosecutor of Cook County to investigate whether there is sufficient evidence of crimes committed by the Jesuit superiors," said Barbara Blaine, president of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP.) "It seems as though there's evidence of conspiracy (and) evidence of perjury."

If and when a grand jury is called, we'll get its findings. In Chicago, I don't hold out much hope for "transparency."

And the "evidence" you're looking for, Lastchance, begins with the fact that the RCC defrocked Donald McGuire and then apologized for not protecting children from him.

16 posted on 04/01/2011 7:08:39 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“An advocacy group for people abused by priests on Wednesday asked Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez to launch a grand jury investigation into the Chicago-based Jesuit province.”

Different case from what is under discussion on this thread. I favor the proposed action.

“And the “evidence” you’re looking for, Lastchance, begins with the fact that the RCC defrocked Donald McGuire and then apologized for not protecting children from him.”

I am confused how is the McGuire case evidence that the 11 priests accused in another Diocese are guilty?

PS I am not making it personal. You keep equating accusation with prima facie. Why else would you demand that names of those who may currently be under investigation be released? The only reason is to engage in a witch hunt. What I do favor is the findings of any investigation be made public and that the priests under investigation and/or accused by relieved of any public ministry till the investigation is complete. Heck if they can set a bail amount or refuse bail so the guy stays in jail after arrest fine by me too.

If that investigation (I mean the State’s) finds credible allegations have been made and that the offenses fall outside the statute of limitations than prosecution should proceed as warranted under law. If found guilty appropriate sentencing up to and including the Gulag should be levied.

That is how a society that is ruled by law works. I want it to work. I want it to work even for the guilty. I want this because the protection of our constitutional rights is kind of a sticking point for me.

Innocent people do get accused of crimes. Even innocent priests get acussed of crimes. But guilty or not there is a procedure that is followed in law to assure the legal rights of the accused are met while the public is protected. If you have issue with that you can contact your local district attorney and demand all people accused of a crime and under confidential investigation have their namnes made public. I’m sure it would go over well with legal types.


19 posted on 04/01/2011 7:47:44 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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