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Archdiocese List of Accused Priests Remains Secret
Chicago Tribune ^ | April 1, 2011 | AP

Posted on 04/01/2011 1:53:58 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

The Archdiocese of St. Paul has a list of 33 priests accused of sexually abusing minors. But, unlike a similar list of priests revealed this week by St. John's Abbey in Collegeville, the St. Paul priests will remain unnamed.

St. John's released the names of 17 monks who have faced credible allegations of sexual abuse or misconduct as part of a lawsuit settlement.

Victims' rights advocates have pushed to make such lists public for years. Roman Catholic archdioceses in Milwaukee, Chicago and Baltimore are among those that have revealed the names of accused priests...

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


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To: Dr. Eckleburg; lastchance

A recent accusation was just made public in the Diocese I live in..he was put on leave and the name made public.. so to say that is “how it works” is just not true...

May be where the church is trying to bury it as they liked to do in the past.. but no more


41 posted on 04/02/2011 9:53:45 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: marshmallow

Thank you.


42 posted on 04/02/2011 10:05:04 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: D-fendr

:-)


43 posted on 04/02/2011 10:07:11 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I think they think blasphemy is any call for Rome to be accountable


44 posted on 04/02/2011 10:10:03 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; lastchance
A recent accusation was just made public in the Diocese I live in..he was put on leave and the name made public.. so to say that is “how it works” is just not true...

Dioceses all over the country are releasing the names of accused priests. Why? Not only to protect children and families, but to protect those same dioceses from further charges of collusion and conspiracy.

45 posted on 04/02/2011 12:10:43 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: marshmallow; Running On Empty; RnMomof7; lastchance

All the obscuring verbiage in the world doesn’t change the fact that Crimen Sollicitationis is still in effect and the oath of secrecy still covers the accuser in all cases of priestly misdeeds.


46 posted on 04/02/2011 12:13:08 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: lastchance; RnMomof7; Gamecock
Release of records to meet a lawsuit settlement does not equal release of the names of persons who may be innocent.

Tell that to the many RC diocese who have released the names of priests accused of various sexual crimes.

47 posted on 04/02/2011 12:15:32 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Exactly... I think the release of the name is very important.. because other victims may find the courage to come forward too


48 posted on 04/02/2011 12:17:16 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; lastchance; D-fendr; marshmallow; Running On Empty; Gamecock
Exactly... I think the release of the name is very important.. because other victims may find the courage to come forward too

That is certainly one important reason for releasing the names.

Clearly, releasing the names isn't illegal, or dozens of diocese wouldn't be releasing the names of accused priests.

Whether these dioceses are interested in the welfare of families and children, or they are concerned with avoiding further criminal charges of collusion and conspiracy, we don't know.

49 posted on 04/02/2011 12:20:36 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: lastchance

Thank you for taking the time to make that so clear. You did a good job even if it doesn’t sink in to some posters. You have more patience than I do on threads like this.


50 posted on 04/02/2011 12:29:36 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: samiam1972
Are all the many Roman Catholic dioceses which have released the names of suspected pedophile priests wrong? Are they breaking the law?

Or are they either trying to help families and children be kept out of harm's way, while also protecting those dioceses from further criminal charges of collusion and conspiracy?

51 posted on 04/02/2011 1:24:34 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I don’t know the reasons why any individual diocese releases or chooses not to release the names. You’ll have to contact officials there for truthful answers. Anything I say would be an opinion or guess.

I haven idea if they are breaking the law. Have you studied to be a lawyer? I sure haven’t. Can’t help you with that one.

Your last question is so loaded. It implies that a diocese that waits to release names is harming children. Usually, when a priest is accused, they are removed from duties until the matter can be resolved. You do realize that most of the accusations stem from abuse that happened over 30 years ago, right? The Church has taken many steps to prevent this from happening again. You may have a problem with how the Church used to take care of these matters but they are doing an amazing job now.


52 posted on 04/02/2011 5:06:39 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: samiam1972

Haven=have no. Sorry about that. Hard to type on the phone with my thumbs.


53 posted on 04/02/2011 5:33:41 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: samiam1972; P-Marlowe
I haven idea if they are breaking the law.

Since many Roman Catholic diocese have released the names of suspected pederast priests, I doubt they are breaking the law.

And if those dioceses can and do release the names of suspected pederast priests, they all should in order to protect children and families from these criminals.

Usually, when a priest is accused, they are removed from duties until the matter can be resolved.

that is not what has been happening all over the world for decades, if not centuries. These pederasts are kept on the job, or shuffled from one unsuspecting parish to the next where they are free to rape more children.

You do realize that most of the accusations stem from abuse that happened over 30 years ago, right?

That is not true. Many of these cases involve current priests. But one of the reasons for publishing the names of these priests is so that other victims will come forward when they realize they are not alone.

The Church has taken many steps to prevent this from happening again. You may have a problem with how the Church used to take care of these matters but they are doing an amazing job now.

You need to read the 2011 Philadelpia Grand Jury report and compare it to the 2005 Grand Jury report. Part of the intense fury voiced by the Grand Jury is that NOTHING had been done to remedy the situation, but instead, more empty denials and hiding of pederast priests. Links to both those reports are found here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2698365/posts?page=9#9

I would expect someone who cares about the truth to read the reports to see what the current situation really is. I'd be interested in hearing what you think of the RCC's "amazing job" after you read them.

54 posted on 04/02/2011 7:58:50 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: samiam1972

You’ve been adhered to in the Tar Baby segment of this game.

One tiny post is all it takes...


55 posted on 04/02/2011 8:37:38 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr; Dr. Eckleburg

Which is why I try to avoid these threads. I just wanted to compliment a person on a job well done. Don’t worry. I live my faith on a daily basis. I don’t let silliness like this get to me. My children are in the Church on a regular basis. I’m not worried about them AT ALL! I know all the things my husband had to go through to volunteer with the Scout program. It’s not the same as it used to be.

I have a personal way of looking at this. My mom was raised in the equivalent of Mayberry. Nothing bad ever happened and they were free to roam with no worries. So when my brother and I came along, she tried to raise us the same way. The problem is, the world around her changed and she wasn’t aware of all the bad things that were happening. Things happened to me that shouldn’t have. I didn’t tell my parents until I was an adult. They felt horrible but they couldn’t go back in time to change what happened. Instead, they are now helping me raise my children in a more safe environment. This is how I see the Church. I know it’s simplistic and I realize it is just my opinion but I love my Lord and the Church He left for me. It isn’t perfect but it will always be here. He gave me His word. My children will know, love and serve the Lord with the help of the beautiful Catholic Church and the many wonderful, holy men that serve us.

With that little story I will attempt to leave this thread. I don’t need the negativity that permeates this place.


56 posted on 04/02/2011 9:00:07 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: D-fendr

And thus the non-defense of the faith by those who can only make the discussion personal.


57 posted on 04/02/2011 9:01:35 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: samiam1972
What a moving story. I hope God has healed you. With a past such as yours I would expect you to be even more vigilant in protecting your children.

Have you read the Grand Jury reports I linked to in the above post?

58 posted on 04/02/2011 9:04:35 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I don’t like to be on the defensive all the time. There’s no reason at all for me to be there. You can keep at this all you want but it seems like a very sad way to go through life.


59 posted on 04/02/2011 9:05:53 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Sorry, I’m not playing the game.


60 posted on 04/02/2011 9:09:14 PM PDT by D-fendr
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