Is the New Testament Forged? New book by major NT scholar makes mincemeat of Christian's faith

Christian Post ^ | 03/28/2011 | Jerry Newcombe

[Invincibly Ignorant]

But no serious scholar holds that view.

Convenient. The author gets to define "serious scholars" apparently.

[knarf]

gravity has no author ... it doesn’t exist.

[Sloth]

So why are Bart Ehrman and other liberal scholars even concerning themselves with this stuff if they don’t believe it?

This is critical. You don't go out of your way to be hostile to things you simply don't believe in. I don't think the Bhagavad Gita is divinely inspired, for instance, but I don't make it my business to tear it down, and I certainly wouldn't become a "scholar" on the subject if I thought it was fraudulent.

In other words, these rabid anti-Christian types are motivated by something more than mere unbelief.

[kcvl]

Debunking Dr. Bart. D. Ehrman

A look into Bart D. Ehrman’s Misquoting Jesus

Bart would head on to yet another big named school, but one that was now moving away from his founding conservative principles, to a more liberal progressive stance: Princeton Theological Seminary. It is here that Bart D Ehrman would study under the renowned textual scholar, Bruce M Metzger. When writing an initial paper, for a Princeton professor by the name of Cullen Story at the beginning of his stay, Bart tried to give a long complicated answer to overturn a discrepancy found in the Gospel of Mark. (Mark 2:26; 2 Sam 21:1-6) It was the professor’s response that would send this doubting young man onto the road that would end in his becoming an Agnostic: “Maybe Mark just made a mistake.” Here is Bart’s established mindset from Misquoting Jesus before he even enters his first chapter:

http://tinyurl.com/4a86o8w

[TribalPrincess2U]

(is sure to make mincemeat of many people’s faith)

NEVER! It will only get stronger.
Rewriting the Bible does nothing to those that believe.

[Jonty30]

That’s the nature of modern scholarship now.

Most modern scholary works are now worth the paper it’s written on. Good for starting campfire is all it’s worth now.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Amazingly, Jesus made a warning that fits here (if the Gospel of Matthew is to be believed-and, no, it wasn’t forged; it just isn’t signed). He admonished those who “shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces.” He said, “You yourselves won’t go in, but you prevent others from going in.”

That's rich. Prove him wrong with the same book he claims to be a forgery. lol.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: If he is agnostic, he should be removed from teaching in a seminary, plain and simple.

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Well Ehrman teaches at a STATE University, paid for by the Tax dollars of North Carolinians.

He also happens to be the chosen lecturer on the New Testament for the Teaching Company. His bio : is found here

[RnMomof7]

The Author is the Holy Spirit... and its impossible to forge HIS work

[Nevadan]

re: “Faith in Jesus is separate from faith in “The Word”.”

Completely untrue. Jesus was the Word of God made flesh in humnan form. Jesus said, “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.”

Faith in Christ is faith in God’s Word. They are inseparable. The written Bible is God’s message to us - it is through the written Word of God that we hear God’s love and of His salvation for us.

[Joe 6-pack]

"Yet another attack on Christianity from the Ivory Tower of Babel..."

You can count on it every year around Lent, Holy Week, Easter and Christmas; it really becomes rather wearisome. The more absurd the assertion these people make, the more seriously (and extensively) the MSM will cover it.

[SeekAndFind]

Bart D. Ehrman

M.Div., Ph.D., Princeton Theological Seminary

The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Bart D. Ehrman is the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor at The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, where he has been teaching for over 15 years. He completed his undergraduate work at Wheaton College and received his Master of Divinity and Ph.D. from Princeton Theological Seminary. Prior to taking his position at UNC, Professor Ehrman taught at Rutgers University.

Professor Ehrman has published dozens of book reviews and scholarly articles for academic journals. He has written or edited 24 books, including The New York Times bestseller Misquoting Jesus; Jesus: Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millennium; The New Testament: A Historical Introduction to the Early Christian Writings; and After the New Testament: A Reader in Early Christianity. He has served as president of the Society of Biblical Literature, Southeast Region; book review editor of the Journal of Biblical Literature; and editor of the Scholar’s Press Monograph Series The New Testament in the Greek Fathers.

Professor Ehrman has received several teaching awards, including the 2009 J. W. Pope "Spirit of Inquiry" Teaching Award, the Students’ Undergraduate Teaching Award, the Ruth and Philip Hettleman Prize for Artistic and Scholarly Achievement, and the Bowman and Gordon Gray Award for Excellence in Teaching.

[BwanaNdege]

Here is what Paul (aka Saul of Tarsus) wrote to the Romans written in Koine Greek, and paraphrased by Eugene Peterson in The Message:

“But God’s angry displeasure erupts as acts of human mistrust and wrongdoing and lying accumulate, as people try to put a shroud over truth. But the basic reality of God is plain enough. Open your eyes and there it is! By taking a long and thoughtful look at what God has created, people have always been able to see what their eyes as such can’t see: eternal power, for instance, and the mystery of his divine being. So nobody has a good excuse. What happened was this: People knew God perfectly well, but when they didn’t treat him like God, refusing to worship him, they trivialized themselves into silliness and confusion so that there was neither sense nor direction left in their lives. They pretended to know it all, but were illiterate regarding life. They traded the glory of God who holds the whole world in his hands for cheap figurines you can buy at any roadside stand.”

If you prefer the King James:

“18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, “

or the NIV:

“18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools...”

It is sad to see a falling away by anyone, but especially a Moody and a Wheaton graduate.

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first” 2 Thess 2:3 KJV

“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” Matt 24:24 KJV

[aMorePerfectUnion]

OK, that settles the whole thing! Guess we should pack it in now.

[MEGoody]

A new book by a major New Testament scholar is sure to make mincemeat of many people’s faith.

Major scholar? Yeah right.

Just like "The DaVinci Code" this won't have one bit of impact on anyone's faith. People who are looking for reasons not to believe will point to this book just like they did the Code.

And people who do believe are not going to swallow this nonsense just because the guy writing the book claims to be smart.

[jnsun]

Bart Ehrman? Who would have guessed?

Classic psychological confusion of personality worship with principle; inherent to those readers of People Magazine and leftists. You can bet Bart Ehrman voted for Barack Obama.

Bart Ehrman would not know the Disciple Matthew if he tripped over him, so what's his point here?

Johnny Suntrade

[RobbyS]

It even applies to the differences in the styles of, say, the Gospel of St. John, and his apocalypse. “Revelation,” says Greek scholars is written in a rough and ready style. Not, however, by a man for whom Greek is a learned language, but a crude but vigorous “country” style. If it was written by John of Galilee, he could well have been fluent in the Greek of that region albeit unlettered. If composed in the confined space of Patmos, he might have had to do his own writing. That would be as markedly different from his gospel where the real work would be that of scribes with just enough of John’s voice to make it authentic. Bishop Robinson—the iconoclastic Anglican bishop (and a liberal on top of it) even speculated that “John” was written first, but then rewritten, maybe twice, to produce the final product.

[Sloth]

Faith in Jesus is separate from faith in “The Word”.I know many who worship the “bible” like a false God. They have trouble with contradictions and errors.

I'm trying to think of what one could possibly believe about Jesus without relying on the Bible. Well, obviously, people can make up any old crap to believe in, but I mean credible sources.

[RoseyT]

In other words, these rabid anti-Christian types are motivated by something more than mere unbelief.

Indeed.

[BwanaNdege]

"If, as many here assert, the Bible is the “word of God”, then the Almighty God is the author and not some Palestinian peasants."

God is the Author, but he used a number of people from various backgrounds as His scribes. Not all were "some Palestinian peasants".

Luke was a physican

Paul was a scholar and theologian (probably a member of the Sanhedrin)

Moses was a prince of Egypt

Ezra was a priest

Solomon was a king

David was a king

Not that they were necessarily any better at writing down the word of God than were those who were "some Palestinian peasants."