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To: WPaCon; HossB86; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
Thank you for proving my point that heresy can mean anything contrary to the Catholic Church.

But not exclusively against the Catholic church and that doesn't mean that the person is by default a heretic against Christianity.

The Catholic church claims a lot of things that aren't true.

So, no, I didn't prove your point.

688 posted on 03/27/2011 8:57:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Roman Catholics believe the truth of the Gospel is heresy. They believe a person who is confident in Christ's acquittal of them is a heretic and condemned to hell, per Trent.

They look to Mary for salvation. They pray to dead people. They follow men whom they believe to be "another Christ." They insist their own good words are required for justification since Christ's work on their behalf is not enough.

The RCC's heresies are exposed by reading the Bible. No wonder so few of them covet it.

694 posted on 03/27/2011 9:02:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom

You did prove my point.

I said heresy is anything contrary to the Catholic Church.

The dictionary also gives a definition of heresy that backs up my claim:

her·e·sy

1 a : adherence to a religious opinion contrary to church dogma
1 b : denial of a revealed truth by a baptized member of the Roman Catholic Church

1 c : an opinion or doctrine contrary to church dogma

Just because the word heresy can be used in another sense doesn’t mean my use of the word heresy was incorrect.

Here is an etymology that backs up my use of the word:

“an opinion of private men different from that of the catholick and orthodox church” [Johnson], early 13c., from O.Fr. heresie, from L. hæresis, “school of thought, philosophical sect,” used by Christian writers for “unorthodox sect or doctrine,” from Gk. hairesis “a taking or choosing,” from haireisthai “take, seize,” middle voice of hairein “to choose,” of unknown origin. The Greek word was used in N.T. in reference to the Sadducees, Pharisees, and even the Christians, as sects of Judaism, but in English bibles it usually is translated sect. Meaning “religious belief opposed to the orthodox doctrines of the Church” evolved in Late Latin in the Dark Ages.

http://etymonline.com/?term=heresy

By the way, I’ve been posting this week The Great Heresies by Hilaire Belloc. He was a pretty sharp man. You might learn something from him.


699 posted on 03/27/2011 9:07:12 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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