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To: Cronos; esquirette; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix
nothing that teachs one to hate?

You mean ordering OPC members to not celebrate with Jews is not hate?

You want to see what teaching hate is?

"During the Reformation, in 1555, Pope Paul IV decreed that all Jews must be segregated into their own quarters (ghettos), and they were forbidden to leave their home during the night, were banned from all but the most strenuous occupations and had to wear a distinctive badge — a yellow hat.

Jews could not own any property outside the ghetto. They were not allowed to study in higher education institutions or become lawyers, pharmacists, painters, politicians, notaries or architects. Jews were forced to pay for Christian missionaries who proselytized to the Jews and a yearly sum to the Cloister of the Converted.

These anti-Jewish laws were similar to those imposed by Nazi Germany on the Jews during World War II.

"Unfortunately for the Jews, one of Carnival’s [that is, the public celebrations prior to Lent] most popular features was the ritual degradation of the people of the ghetto.

Among the first historical references we have to such rites is a description from 1466, when for the amusement of the Romans, in festivities sponsored by Pope Paul II, Jews were made to race naked through the streets of the city. ...Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them, and at the same time, more amusing for the spectators. They ran from the Arch of Domitian to the Church of St. Mark at the end of the Corso at full tilt, amid Rome’s taunting shrieks of encouragement and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.

Two centuries later, these practices, now deemed indecorous and unbefitting the dignity of the Holy City, were stopped by Clement IX. In their place the Pope assessed a heavy tax on the Jews to help pay the costs of the city’s Carnival celebrations.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Rome.html
http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2011/02/popes-against-jews-part-5-you-will.html

1,290 posted on 03/30/2011 7:53:26 AM PDT by bkaycee
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To: bkaycee; Cronos; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix

Still, these are acts, not beliefs. Espousing a belief is not hate, even if it means other beliefs are wrong. Acting upon it may be hate, but the exclusivity of a belief is not preaching hate. Therefore, you make the point.


1,291 posted on 03/30/2011 8:09:46 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: bkaycee; Cronos; esquirette; Quix
Thanks for that informative post about papist anti-Semitism.

The Roman Catholics kicked the Jews out of England and the Protestants under Cromwell brought them back in. That pattern has remained fairly consistent for centuries...

"THE POPES AGAINST THE JEWS
THE VATICAN'S ROLE IN THE RISE OF MODERN ANTI-SEMITISM"
by David Kertzer

1,293 posted on 03/30/2011 9:33:38 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: bkaycee

How horrible! The history of the vatican is deplorable - the evil empire.


1,300 posted on 03/30/2011 11:40:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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