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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg; presently no screen name; Quix; RnMomof7; smvoice; metmom; ...

Mark, while I esteem your desire for open data sets, and i found that Pew offers such, (http://pewresearch.org/databank/datasets/) it is your assertion of bias, equating such to anti-Catholic Calvinists due to its conclusions, and which imaginatively presumes favoritism of politically conservative evangelicals, that lacks proof and credulity, despite the general media bias.

Resorting to charging all such as part of a conspiracy against Catholics is not unexpected, and since such studies also testify to an increasing declension of evangelicals, we could be tempted to do the same.

It also seems that you yourself have invoked statistics, and your demanding standard is not shared by RCs who quote stats which show things which make Protestants look badly. And if that were overall the case, i do not think i would find RCs questioning their veracity.

And rather than showing great disparity, an overall uniformity is evidenced Catholic studies show Catholics as more liberal. If you find stats that overall show the opposite, then let me know. I have not.


1,250 posted on 03/29/2011 5:56:05 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19)
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To: daniel1212
Mark, while I esteem your desire for open data sets, and i found that Pew offers such, (http://pewresearch.org/databank/datasets/) it is your assertion of bias, equating such to anti-Catholic Calvinists due to its conclusions, and which imaginatively presumes favoritism of politically conservative evangelicals, that lacks proof and credulity, despite the general media bias.

I do not equate and never intimated that they were equivalent. The Pew group is well known for its antiCatholic bias, just as most liberal groups are. Calvinist organizations are well know for their antiCatholic biases as well. I think that it is the seizing on one antiCatholic's bile by another antiCatholic group and I in no way intended to present them as equivalent or in collusion in any way.

It also seems that you yourself have invoked statistics, and your demanding standard is not shared by RCs who quote stats which show things which make Protestants look badly. And if that were overall the case, i do not think i would find RCs questioning their veracity.

Right is right and wrong is wrong. Proof is proof and wishful thinking is wishful thinking. If the good Doctor wishes to engage in grand mal seizure type behaviour in waving around a prayer hanky utilizing unsubstantiated claims in claiming victory over the Christians, then, I shall challenge those claims.

I have offered up an example scientifically accurate poll and asked her to come up with her own if she does not like that one and I have repeatedly offered to discuss data and scientifically accurate conclusions, regardless of which scientifically accurate poll she wishes to use.

And rather than showing great disparity, an overall uniformity is evidenced Catholic studies show Catholics as more liberal. If you find stats that overall show the opposite, then let me know. I have not.

More liberal in what way than what group?

1,308 posted on 03/31/2011 11:38:05 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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