Posted on 03/26/2011 12:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
I’m under no obligation to answer any questions from you about my prayer life.
And I won’t ask you about yours.
I know well that I could answer your queries, but I already know, by the nature of your questions, that answering would be an exercise in futility.
Had you asked because you wanted to exchange with me I may have answered; but you asked and then answered for me with your own answers-—so......
An 83 year year old disreputable disagreeable busybody crone. Why, are you trying to sign up?
I don't know what an RC apologist is, so I will let that go for now. The site that you brought up is not a Roman Catholic website; it is not even a Catholic one. It uses the term 'Catholic' on the site in the same manner that the OPC uses the term 'Christian'. They are equally true - or should I say - false.
Deny the evidence all you want. Same old/same old.
The evidence that you brought is approximately of the same value that most of your evidence is. I bring you evidence of the CUNY study with complete methodology (and as a scientist and engineer, I must say that their methodology is quite satisfactory for a blind study). You post statements about somebody's else's statements about somebody else's statements about a study that has no methology or raw data or any sort of scientific methodology about it.
Your postings that purport to contain the Gospel message are overwhelmingly snippets from Paul or verses from the OT. Same as your doctrinal proofs.
But start protecting your children from Romes pederast priestcraft because they are creating the next generation of homosexuals.
You have no clue as to the situation as it is. I was an altar boy from a young age and have been very involved in the Church most of my life. I have never known or known of a child molesting incident in which I knew or knew of any of the victims or perpetrators (except in far off news coverage). Exactly none of my six siblings were molested or knew of any molesting. My parents didn't. My extended family didn't. My neighbours and fellow parishioners didn't.
Any of the failed Catholics that you know were molested?
The (heinous) sins of the few taint all. Agreed. But the actions of Arianna Huffington and Jack Abramoff do not invalidate the entire Republican Party.
Something RC apologists dont seem too concerned about.
My responsibilities to my family are not to be paraded about for the amusement of pagan barbarians claiming to be civilized. Or Christian.
I ask this because what you are being taught in the Catchism, doesn’t square with Scripture. I understand, I am ex-RCC. (Although I still get my envelopes every month, after not having set foot in an RCC church for over seven years.) Simply put, the value placed on Mary and the saints in the RCC is antithetical to Gospel Scripture. For Catholics to say, that they don’t pray to or worship Mary is simply a fallacy. In fact, the RCC parish in my town has as it’s centerpiece a huge statue of Mary in the front yard.
Yep. We've seen on this very thread how RC apologists work to finagle the language.
It all depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
Keep denying the facts. It doesn’t matter other than to serve as one more example of RC misdirection and ignorance.
add another one...I left the RCC years ago, after learning the truth from my Protestant Army Chaplain.
Irish Tenor. Rnmomof7. Presentlynoscreenname. Topcat54. Metmom. My husband.
Lousy try. Let's have some public figures whose life can be examined - those who are becoming Protestants, as I posted - and we can see their spiritual life as Catholics and make the determination in the light of day whether these are truly conservative Catholics.
That is, unless you have nobody that can be evaluated. Which is most likely the case.
Now that Catholics are established by several recent polls to be at the highest percentage of the American population they have ever been in the country's history and ever increasing
Mark, easily proven errors make for lousy evidence.
CATHOLIC TRADITION FADING IN U.S.
Excellent. You bring up the Washington Post's reference to the flawed Pew reference to a study group that nobody has ever heard of, with no methodology or scientific basis listed. That truly is lousy evidence.
Now, we have the fully documented CUNY scientifically documented poll designed to eliminate any claims of roll-padding, because the people were asked blind what religious affiliation they were with no leading or biasing in any way.
Read 'em and weep, good Doctor. Not only is the phone booth cult losing, but Protestants (at least those that still believe in God) are also losing at an accelerating rate.
Question: will the last OPC church close its doors in your lifetime? I realize that 83 doesn't leave much time, but you seem quite spry and will probably be around for a while. Well, what do you think?
The characterization seems inconsistent with the comment you made.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States
"The largest religion in the US is Christianity, practiced by the majority of the population (76% in 2008[4]). From those queried, roughly 51.3% of Americans are Protestants, 25% are Catholics, and 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.7% to various other Christian denominations.[16]"
And as the Pew study pointed out, those Protestants who self-identify as Evangelical are now the largest denomination, making up over 26% of the population of the U.S.
Better question: Why would anyone but a baby send a private message to someone which they didn't have the guts to post online?
You aren’t asking me. You’re telling me how to pray according to you understanding.
That just doesn’t work.
For either of us.
As we’ve noted for years on this forum, NO evidence is ENOUGH evidence when it contradicts Roman Catholic error.
You’ve been given the evidence you asked for, and yet you come back with a rephrasing of the question. lol.
And you keep calling the Pew Study “flawed.” Where do you get that opinion?
As we’ve seen, inconvenient truths are always “flawed” to RC apologists who cannot face the truth.
When I converse with you, I don't have to deny any facts, even if I were inclined to (which I am not), simply because you almost never bring any to your posts.
There are a number of Calvinists and non Catholics on this site who do routinely have well reasoned arguments supported by facts, but I am really amused by the state of the usual OPC/PCA argument. Not just comical, and not just fact-free, but:
AMEN!
Post tenebras lux.
After darkness, light.
Beer, ale, and occasionally a glass of wine, yes! No hard liquor has passed my lips in over 55 years. (I just couldn't handle firewater and would most likely be dead or in jail if I continued.)
"The largest religion in the US is Christianity, practiced by the majority of the population (76% in 2008[4]). From those queried, roughly 51.3% of Americans are Protestants, 25% are Catholics, and 1.7% are Mormons (the name commonly used to refer to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), and 1.7% to various other Christian denominations.[16]"
You are far too funny for this thread. I bring you a scientifically designed, performed and evaluated study by the CUNY, with complete open and aboveboard fact gathering and analysis, and you come back to me with Wiki and a flawed Pew report in which they didn't perform the study and have no data as to the methodology, oversight, fact gathering and analysis.
I suppose that back when you were in school, 3/4 of a century ago, that passed for facts in whatever unelectrified swamp you grew up in, but your presentations are not of rigourous scientific study and their conclusions are dubious at best and outright lies at worst.
“Incoherent? LOL!”
I always admire those who can laugh at themselves.
Mark do you really think that matters?
Catholics hang all their hats on numbers.. as if the church with the most members wins.. I would just remind you of the words of Jesus..."Many are called , few are CHOSEN"
.." wide [is] the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many will go there"...
Truth is not determined by numbers... ask Christ who heard the crowd yell to crucify him...
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