Maybe it's a question to ask the PCA, not PCA Gamcock as well?
I'm sure that the answer would be predestined:
Posted on 03/26/2011 12:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
WELL PUT.
How rational is it saying ..just a few? In this case alone, there are 37 priests. How many more would be needed to breakthrough your ‘just a few’ thresh hold?
It’s that rubberized Vatican math text at work again.
Only for the white hanky initiated to understand, of course.
Now now.
The world is supposed to know . . .
There’s rubberized Vatican “truth”
and there’s truth for everyone else.
Nothing could be more shameful and disturbing than to deny Christ's very words. The ones written in red, so there can be no mistaking those words for anyone else's words.
Matthew 15:24: "But he answered her and said, I AM NOT SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL."
And who can forget those red words here: Matthew 10:5, where Christ commanded the twelve to "go NOT INTO THE WAY OF THE GENTILES".
What does the RCC teach about these red-words of Christ? Are they denied, or are they skipped over for nicer red words? It's very clear what they say. It's not just WHAT IS SAID, it's also WHY IT IS SAID.
Maybe it's a question to ask the PCA, not PCA Gamcock as well?
I'm sure that the answer would be predestined:
Whom does the puppeteer represent?
(Insert extraneous propaganda which does nothing to support the claim that James I wrote the KJV)........................
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I assume this is your quiet way of admitting your erroneous claim that James I wrote the KJV.
In the future I would prefer a simple statement such as "I mistakenly claimed James I wrote the KJV." "Old Reggie is correct in that James I did not write the KJV."
See how easy it is to admit an error.
Would you take issue with me if I claimed Pope John Paul II wrote the New Code Of Canon Law?
Then why the Rosary? Why the prayers directed to Mary, if she is not an intecessor for you with the Lord? Where in Scripture are you directed to pray to anyone but the Lord himself? Why the need for a third party intervention?
May you find your place in the great chunky peanut butter of life!
I get upset because it's the Catholic teachers who are perpetrating the cover ups...
I get very upset when people do not bother with the facts of sexual abuse in other institutions.
I get upset when they cut and pste facts to present a completely lopsided view of the crisis.
It's not a lopsided view, it's a lopsided crisis...Yours is the only institution that hides and provides cover for these perverts...You then shuffle them to different areas with the same set ups and allow them to commit even more crimes...And then you shuffle then again...
And then they get promoted to a higher rank within your institution...
Why? Because such tactics all allow lies to stand. Yet again we are not allowed to defend ourselves. Even when other take what we write and quote it out of context so it appears to support their arguments we are forbidden from calling them to task.
HuH??? You guys are constantly trying to defend yourselves...Problem is; there's not much air in your balloon...You guys have to resort to trying to change the subject by pointing out what you seem to think are flaws in the religion of others...
If you guys would team up and aid Jesus in removing those rascals from your religion instead of trying to deflect the attention they are getting, just think of the hundreds of millions of dollars your parishes could have to spend on worthwhile projects and programs...
There there now. Poor baby.
Matthew 15:24: "But he answered her and said, I AM NOT SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL."
And who can forget those red words here: Matthew 10:5, where Christ commanded the twelve to "go NOT INTO THE WAY OF THE GENTILES".
Applause. Christ at that point was telling the Apostles to stick close to home and observe the ramifications of their interactions with the Jews. He was getting them ready for their eventual mission to the world, but they were not ready at that point. Luke 10 and Mark 6 both speak to this initial evangelization practice, as it were.
Luke 10:17 The seventy (-two) returned rejoicing, and said, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us because of your name."
Mark 6: 12 So they went off and preached repentance. 13 9 They drove out many demons, and they anointed with oil many who were sick and cured them.
Bingo. And what was their final mission to be, after Jesus had Ascended into Heaven?
Mark 16:. 14 (But) later, as the eleven were at table, he appeared to them and rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart because they had not believed those who saw him after he had been raised. 15 He said to them, "Go into the whole world and proclaim the gospel to every creature. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 These signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will drive out demons, they will speak new languages. 18 They will pick up serpents (with their hands), and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not harm them. They will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." 19 So then the Lord Jesus, after he spoke to them, was taken up into heaven and took his seat at the right hand of God. 20 But they went forth and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the word through accompanying signs.) 3
Matthew 28: 18 11 Then Jesus approached and said to them, "All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go, therefore, 12 and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. 13 And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age."
Jesus was readying the Apostles for their evangelizing mission to the whole world. That is the nice thing about believing the Church that Jesus has created for us. The Church skips over nothing; the Church does understand what the worlds mean and in what context.
Jesus could have converted all men in His time spent Incarnate, but He did not.
Jesus could have waved a magic wand and converted all men from Heaven, but He did not.
Jesus could have robotically programmed Adam and Eve to never have eaten from the fruit of the Tree, or else simply eliminated the Tree from the Garden, but He did not.
What do we have? We have ALL of the words of Jesus spoken as He wishes us to know them, in the order that He wishes us to know them, and in the context that He wishes us to know them.
The Apostles went their various ways - evidence from both Scriptural and extraScriptural writings of the times. Since Tradition and extra Scriptural writings both come into play here, before you say anything, yes I know that only a little of this is actually in the New Testament. However, this is a compilation of what I was able to find.
Matthew - martyred by sword in Ethiopia.
Mark - martyred by dragging from a horse in Alexandria.
Luke - martyred by hanging in Greece.
John - a bunch of close calls, but died peacefully.
Peter - crucified upside down in Rome.
James the Just - thrown off the southeast pinnacle of the Temple (allegedly where satan tempted Christ) and then beaten to death.
James the Greater - martyred by beheading in Jerusalem.
Bartholomew - martyred by flaying in Armenia.
Andrew - martyred by crucifixion in Patras, Greece.
Thomas - martyred by a spear thrust in India.
Jude - martyred with arrows (not sure where).
Matthias - stoned and then beheaded (not sure where).
Barnabas - stoned to death in Salonica
Paul - tortured and beheaded by the Emperor Nero.
This is the instruction to the Church - what Jesus meant and why. He had to teach them viscerally that they weren't just Jews anymore - and Peter had to learn the lesson from Paul again. But that is the Church - fallible men attempting what the infallible Christ instructs them to do. So as it was, so as it is and so as it ever shall be until the return of Christ.
The choices are few, when you think about it, aren't they?
Very good. Old Reggie is correct in that James I did not write the KJV.
Would you take issue with me if I claimed Pope John Paul II wrote the New Code Of Canon Law?
Lesson accepted, Master Po. :)
Christ seems to be their milk. It is Isaiah and Paul which is their meat.
Could it be that some of us are just repeating the Red words of Jesus???
Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
You seem to have trouble believing what Jesus said...Are you a Gentile??? If so, Jesus says His Gospel is NOT for you...Don't argue with me...Take it up with Jesus...
You also seem to be disingenuous...It was Paul that gave you the knowledge of the Gospel of your Grace, not Jesus...It was Paul that revealed to you that you would be allowed into the church that Jesus planned on building...If Jesus had not revealed this information to Paul, you wouldn't have a church to go to...
Because they can't figure out what to do with it, they pretend Jesus didn't say it...
Obviously, that's your religion's private interpretation and thus your tradition since it can't be found in the scriptures...
Sorry, but no cupie doll...The Apostles weren't practicing on the Jews til they got it right enough for the Gentiles...Apparently you have no idea how much scripture you have to ignore and trash to come up with the interpretation your religion invented...
I have been booted off more than one thread and I am a kind, sweet, old man.
“We have scripture despite the Romish “Church.””
Romish “Church?” What is that? If you’re trying to say that you have scripture in spite of the Catholic Church, then that is just more historical revisionism.
“Nice attempt at deflection — the quote from the catechism spoke specifically of Mary’s “roles” — one of which the “Church” defines as ‘Mediatrix’ — I challenged you to find that in scripture in light of 1 Tim. 2:5. But, instead of confronting that, you ask about sovereignty? Go back and re-read the post.”
Let’s see who is deflecting and who needs to go back and read the conversation. This conversation has nothing to do with Mary, and your the one who brought up sovereignty. Here it is:
574 Hoss: “Here’s a newsflash: God is SOVEREIGN.”
614 Me: “I don’t know why that’s a newsflash. Who disagrees with that?”
751 Hoss: “The Roman Catholic “Church” does—just showed you from its own catechism. 2 Tim. 2:5. Check it out.”
756 Me: “Really? I didn’t see the line where it said God is not sovereign.”
As you can see, I’m not the one deflecting by bring up Mary, and I’m not the one who brought up sovereignty.
“Basically it means that scripture is the ultimate authority for doctrine and teaching”
Sola Scriptura is latin for “by scripture alone.” How someone could get your definition out of “by scripture alone,” I don’t know.
“Keep swingin’ —”
Trash talk is no substitute for debate.
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