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Catholic Sex Abuse Hearing Descends Into `Shut Up' Order and Charge of 'Abomination'
Courthouse News Service ^ | March 25, 2011 | Reuben Kramer

Posted on 03/26/2011 12:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

At an intensely combative and vitriolic hearing Friday afternoon in a sex-abuse case that has shaken the Philadelphia Archdiocese to its core, a state court judge shocked one priest's defense attorney by disclosing that the government thinks he might be a witness as a former seminarian and could be disqualified from the case. The lawyer, who represents one of three current and former Roman Catholic priests charged with raping boys in their parish, fired back that prosecutors were being "anti-Catholic" and had uttered an "abomination."

Judge Renee Cardwell Hughes told defense attorney Richard DeSipio that she's received information that "might make you, in fact, a witness because of events that occurred while you were a seminarian."

The information "stems from the fact that you attended the seminary with a student who asserts he was abused," Hughes said, adding that DeSipio "may possess factual knowledge about abuse that occurred with that student."

She added that the substance of the claim that DiSipio witnessed something is still unclear. "I just don't know if it's true," Hughes said. "I really don't know if it's true."

Yelling and visibly upset, DeSipio demanded that the government, then and there, identify the source of the allegation. "Let them spill it out right now!" DeSipio demanded.

"How dare they send you a letter about that," DeSipio said, referring to the district attorney's office. "That's an abomination."

Prosecutors said only that part of DeSipio's seminary training overlapped with the tenure of a senior clergyman accused of endangering children by failing to protect them from priests with a known history of abuse.

Monsignor William Lynn, now pastor of St. Joseph Church in Downingtown, Pa., is reportedly the highest-ranking member of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States ever to be charged with child endangerment. Between 1984 and 1992, he served as dean of men at St. Charles Borromeo Seminary in Wynnewood, Pa., according to his biography on St. Joseph's website. As the secretary for clergy for the Archdiocese of Philadelphia from 1992 to 2004, Lynn acted as personnel director for priests. He is accused of ignoring reports of abuse, covering up for them and putting children in danger.

"They are anti-Catholic. I'll say it," DiSipio fumed. "[The district attorney is] attacking me as a Catholic!"

The judge rejected DiSipio's claim. "Attack you? You attacked me! You don't even know me!" Hughes said, referring to a prior argument over the necessity of a preliminary hearing, another hotly contested issue Friday afternoon.

"Mr. DeSipio, I suggest you shut up," Hughes said. "People are coming from out of the woodwork [to provide information to the commonwealth.]"

If the government can prove the allegation is credible in 30 days, DeSipio will be disqualified as the archdiocese's attorney.

"You can change lawyers now, you can change lawyers in 30," the judge warned DeSipio's client, the Rev. James Brennan. "[But] there are some conflicts that are not waivable."

DeSipio argued that the 30-day investigation was "really unfair to Father Brennan," given his mounting legal costs.

Judge Hughes was livid that DeSipio spoke up again. "If you open your mouth one more time I am going to have the sheriff take you out of here," she told DeSipio.

As DeSipio continued to argue, Hughes said she might have him "locked up and held in contempt." Instead she issued a gag order, responding to what she observed as attorneys having "gone to the airways to advocate."

"No more interviews with anyone," the judge ruled.

"Does that include the DA going on Chris Matthews' 'Hardball' and going to the New York Times," defense attorney Michael McGovern asked.

The judge responded affirmatively: "I don't want tweets. I don't want Facebook. I don't want IMs [instant messages]."

Hughes said the court will revisit the gag order on April 15, when defendants are to be arraigned. That date also marks the deadline for the DA to provide the defense with the first batch of discovery, she said.

All but one of the defense attorneys challenged the government's amendment to its case, which added a conspiracy charge that had not explicitly been requested of the grand jury.

"The issue here is that if the DA seeks to amend, it has to be subject to some sort of prima facie determination," the defense argued.

The judge found otherwise, ruling that the commonwealth established "good cause" in its pleadings and that "there is no constitutional right - federal or state - for a preliminary hearing."

It was "a technical error on the commonwealth not to charge conspiracy" originally, Hughes said. "Conspiracy is made," and the defendants will not be afforded a preliminary hearing, she ruled.

Hughes said there was abundant evidence to support the amendment.

"I'm the only person, besides the prosecutors, who has seen every stitch of evidence," she said.

Defense attorney McGovern argued that her admission was precisely the problem.

"Your Honor, this is patently unfair!" McGovern said. "You know the evidence. They know the evidence. I don't know what the evidence is! I haven't seen any!"

The attorney said proceeding to trial without a preliminary hearing was like saying, "Let's have a dart game in a dark room."

"What kind of country is this where we have this?" he shouted.

The judge yelled back, baring her teeth: "You sit down! Sit, sit, sit!"

DeSipio agreed with McGovern that their clients deserve a preliminary hearing, which could allow them to confront their accusers.

"There's no witness. I know that they [the prosecutors] don't like that he's in jail," DeSipio said. "This accuser says there was an erect penis in his buttocks."

"Was it in your buttocks, or was it in your anus," he asked rhetorically. "If that question wasn't asked [of the grand jury], and he didn't specify anus or butt cheeks, I have a right to ask that."

"What you can't do, and what I submit they're trying to do, is say just because we have a grand jury, we have good cause [to by-pass a preliminary hearing]," DeSipio said.

The judge also addressed a potential conflict of interest concerning Monsignor Lynn, who unlike the three current and former priests, faces child endangerment charges - not rape or sexual assault. Plans for the Archdiocese of Philadelphia to pay Lynn's legal costs present "a whole array of conflicts that I can't even imagine at this point in time," Hughes said.

"It's real simple," the judge said to Lynn, who was donning his clerical collar, "your master is the person that's putting bread on the table."

"It may be in your best interest to put forth a defense that attacks other people [or the church]," Hughes said.

She told Lynn he was putting himself in the position of receiving "advice from people who are being paid by people whose interests don't necessarily align with yours."

The stakes of this gamble could amount to "14 years of incarceration versus probation," she said.

Lynn, in a calm voice, declined. "Well, I trust these two men." he said, adding that the church hadn't placed any conditions on the payment of his legal costs.

Hughes was incredulous. "You are making a knowing, voluntary and intelligent decision to place yourself in conflict with your attorneys?" she asked.

"I am," Lynn responded, waiving his right to any future appeal based on the argument that his attorneys had a conflict of interest.

"Then we're moving forward," the judge said.

After arraignments and release of the first batch of discovery, which will include grand jury notes and testimony, on April 15, the government will begin putting together a second batch. The government said that batch would take longer to produce, as it will include roughly 10,000 pages of documentation, much of which will need to be redacted.

Hughes said the government must give the defense a specific timeline for the production of the second batch. "There has to be some finality," she said.

In January, a grand jury returned an indictment for rape and sexual assault against one current priest, one defrocked priest and one man who taught at a Catholic school. Monsignor Lynn, the third cleric who worked for the archdiocese as secretary of clergy, is accused of giving known abusers easy access to minors.


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To: metmom

Good thought


581 posted on 03/27/2011 5:59:02 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: metmom
When your moral beliefs begin in your belly, and your doctrines are written by the fight that you had with your wife, or whether the boss demoted you, or whether the grass has weeds in it, what do you expect?

That's funny coming from a member of a church that believes you have to eat Jesus to have Him in your body to impart eternal life to you

Every time that you say something untrue about the Church, I think to myself that you cannot possibly top that one. Once again, you have done it. Congratulations.

and that when you had that fight with your wife, you had to go to confession again or go to hell, directly to hell, do not pass purgatory, to not collect indulgences.

Two in one sentence. You have outdone yourself. I know that you claim to have been raised Catholic, but I cannot imagine you getting this from a Christian source. As a matter of fact, I don't believe that you have...

582 posted on 03/27/2011 6:01:53 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: smvoice

Amen.. love your tag line too BTW


583 posted on 03/27/2011 6:03:20 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: WPaCon
It does not teach heresy. It cannot. Even if its teachings were false, they would not be heretical.

LOL LOL

584 posted on 03/27/2011 6:04:32 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Pssss in case you have not noticed the Catholic church IS THE LEFT ...

Odd. It's only the left wing in the Catholic Church that wants us to be more like the Protestants. Those of us that believe in traditional Christianity going back to Christ and the Apostles want nothing to do with the traditions of men that have arisen from the ruins of the Reformation and the rubble of the Restoration.

When it comes to Christian belief, you guys are the left wing and the only thing separating you guys from the LDS is the fact that Joe Smith was thrown out of the Presbyterian church because he was too unstable even for them, and he held a grudge.

585 posted on 03/27/2011 6:08:07 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: Gamecock
WOW! Papists are more lest than the rest of America.

Interesting. And to what do you attribute that more lest?

586 posted on 03/27/2011 6:09:58 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Well, I'm not a girl and I love cat pictures.

Your cat has gotten hold of your best teeth again...

587 posted on 03/27/2011 6:11:04 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: RnMomof7
Drip drip drip

Is this part of the prerequisite of admission to the ranks of the antiCatholics?

588 posted on 03/27/2011 6:13:26 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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To: MarkBsnr
American slavery continued for LESS THAN A CENTURY ~ beginning in 1783 with the Treaty of Paris and ending in 1865 with the 13th amendment.

Prior to that time it was English and Spanish slavery.

589 posted on 03/27/2011 6:15:35 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: muawiyah

The judge said she had received the letter, not the prosecution and didn’t know whether it was true or not. It was the defense that went off but didn’t dispute what was said.
The only person that should be removed is the defense attorney for his admitted conflict.


590 posted on 03/27/2011 6:18:10 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Gamecock

Mark, I’m curious about those numbers, too. Why would Obama garner more support than McCain from Roman Catholics?


591 posted on 03/27/2011 6:18:10 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“Six from all over the country over a period of years.”

Not even. Six from all over the WORLD. CC had to find two from Australia to get a respectable list together I guess.


592 posted on 03/27/2011 6:18:20 PM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: Boogieman
“Six from all over the country over a period of years.”

Not even. Six from all over the WORLD. CC had to find two from Australia to get a respectable list together I guess

Thank you. How right you are.

593 posted on 03/27/2011 6:22:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: count-your-change
There's no admitted conflict at all. The judge said she has a letter that she has not shared. She proposes on that basis that the counsel might leave the case.

The trial isn't even under way. Plus, the judge just swapped places with the prosecutor. The defense lawyer would have been more than justified to file a complaint with the state supreme court!

You ever see a Kangaroo Hop?

594 posted on 03/27/2011 6:25:49 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: RnMomof7
I knew an abuser that was reassigned to a small community hospital without a peds floor.. but he found a young man there anyway

That's horrible...

595 posted on 03/27/2011 6:31:34 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: MarkBsnr

“...and wrote the KJV.”

That’s nonsense. King James merely authorized the translation, at the request of bishops and theologians. There were 54 scholars involved in the translation, but King James wasn’t one of them. I think he was probably too busy, you know, kinging.


596 posted on 03/27/2011 6:31:41 PM PDT by Boogieman (")
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To: count-your-change
BTW, in American, but not European and Congolese jurisprudence, silence in the face of an accusation does not mean "yes" and cannot be taken as a sign of guilt.

The lawyer clearly criticized the judge for attempting to blackmail him into leaving the case (does she fear him winning the case?) Whether or not he admitted to being a child molester or other kind of tutti-fruitti is a different issue, and should be referred to a trial, not a judge to counsel discussion in a hearing on an entirely different matter.

You begin to see why these guys get off so easy ~ too many judges not interested in running a regular trial from beginning to end. Going after their lawyer is mickey mouse stuff. If he needs gotten he can be gotten at another time.

597 posted on 03/27/2011 6:32:28 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: OLD REGGIE
In my day (I'm 79) many familys sent at least one son to Jr. Seminary because the 12-13 year old had a "calling". These poor prepubescent boys had no real choice in the matter. I strongly believe it is from among the "graduates" of this barbaric system that many of the abusers were "manufactured".

Poor kids...

598 posted on 03/27/2011 6:36:42 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: RnMomof7
Take a look at the water boarding they had to do to try to get her back to the catholic church

Thats what they would have to do to me

And with Gods grace I would still not renounce the gospel ..that is something Catholics can not understand and never could

AMEN!

"Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?" -- Acts 11:17

599 posted on 03/27/2011 6:37:00 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: muawiyah
A complaint against the judge? For what? For telling everyone in court she had received a letter of unknown veracity? And pointing out the obvious? That the defence advocate cannot be both a witness and an advocate in the trial?

Maybe the defence is trying to lay a foundation for a mistrial if he is not allowed to do both.

Anyway, the trial will probably go forward despite all the whining about bias and anti-catholicism by the defence.

600 posted on 03/27/2011 6:38:36 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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