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Catholic Sex Abuse Hearing Descends Into `Shut Up' Order and Charge of 'Abomination'
Courthouse News Service ^ | March 25, 2011 | Reuben Kramer

Posted on 03/26/2011 12:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

At an intensely combative and vitriolic hearing Friday afternoon in a sex-abuse case that has shaken the Philadelphia Archdiocese to its core, a state court judge shocked one priest's defense attorney by disclosing that the government thinks he might be a witness as a former seminarian and could be disqualified from the case. The lawyer, who represents one of three current and former Roman Catholic priests charged with raping boys in their parish, fired back that prosecutors were being "anti-Catholic" and had uttered an "abomination."

Judge Renee Cardwell Hughes told defense attorney Richard DeSipio that she's received information that "might make you, in fact, a witness because of events that occurred while you were a seminarian."

The information "stems from the fact that you attended the seminary with a student who asserts he was abused," Hughes said, adding that DeSipio "may possess factual knowledge about abuse that occurred with that student."

She added that the substance of the claim that DiSipio witnessed something is still unclear. "I just don't know if it's true," Hughes said. "I really don't know if it's true."

Yelling and visibly upset, DeSipio demanded that the government, then and there, identify the source of the allegation. "Let them spill it out right now!" DeSipio demanded.

"How dare they send you a letter about that," DeSipio said, referring to the district attorney's office. "That's an abomination."

Prosecutors said only that part of DeSipio's seminary training overlapped with the tenure of a senior clergyman accused of endangering children by failing to protect them from priests with a known history of abuse.

Monsignor William Lynn, now pastor of St. Joseph Church in Downingtown, Pa., is reportedly the highest-ranking member of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States ever to be charged with child endangerment. Between 1984 and 1992, he served as dean of men at St. Charles Borromeo Seminary in Wynnewood, Pa., according to his biography on St. Joseph's website. As the secretary for clergy for the Archdiocese of Philadelphia from 1992 to 2004, Lynn acted as personnel director for priests. He is accused of ignoring reports of abuse, covering up for them and putting children in danger.

"They are anti-Catholic. I'll say it," DiSipio fumed. "[The district attorney is] attacking me as a Catholic!"

The judge rejected DiSipio's claim. "Attack you? You attacked me! You don't even know me!" Hughes said, referring to a prior argument over the necessity of a preliminary hearing, another hotly contested issue Friday afternoon.

"Mr. DeSipio, I suggest you shut up," Hughes said. "People are coming from out of the woodwork [to provide information to the commonwealth.]"

If the government can prove the allegation is credible in 30 days, DeSipio will be disqualified as the archdiocese's attorney.

"You can change lawyers now, you can change lawyers in 30," the judge warned DeSipio's client, the Rev. James Brennan. "[But] there are some conflicts that are not waivable."

DeSipio argued that the 30-day investigation was "really unfair to Father Brennan," given his mounting legal costs.

Judge Hughes was livid that DeSipio spoke up again. "If you open your mouth one more time I am going to have the sheriff take you out of here," she told DeSipio.

As DeSipio continued to argue, Hughes said she might have him "locked up and held in contempt." Instead she issued a gag order, responding to what she observed as attorneys having "gone to the airways to advocate."

"No more interviews with anyone," the judge ruled.

"Does that include the DA going on Chris Matthews' 'Hardball' and going to the New York Times," defense attorney Michael McGovern asked.

The judge responded affirmatively: "I don't want tweets. I don't want Facebook. I don't want IMs [instant messages]."

Hughes said the court will revisit the gag order on April 15, when defendants are to be arraigned. That date also marks the deadline for the DA to provide the defense with the first batch of discovery, she said.

All but one of the defense attorneys challenged the government's amendment to its case, which added a conspiracy charge that had not explicitly been requested of the grand jury.

"The issue here is that if the DA seeks to amend, it has to be subject to some sort of prima facie determination," the defense argued.

The judge found otherwise, ruling that the commonwealth established "good cause" in its pleadings and that "there is no constitutional right - federal or state - for a preliminary hearing."

It was "a technical error on the commonwealth not to charge conspiracy" originally, Hughes said. "Conspiracy is made," and the defendants will not be afforded a preliminary hearing, she ruled.

Hughes said there was abundant evidence to support the amendment.

"I'm the only person, besides the prosecutors, who has seen every stitch of evidence," she said.

Defense attorney McGovern argued that her admission was precisely the problem.

"Your Honor, this is patently unfair!" McGovern said. "You know the evidence. They know the evidence. I don't know what the evidence is! I haven't seen any!"

The attorney said proceeding to trial without a preliminary hearing was like saying, "Let's have a dart game in a dark room."

"What kind of country is this where we have this?" he shouted.

The judge yelled back, baring her teeth: "You sit down! Sit, sit, sit!"

DeSipio agreed with McGovern that their clients deserve a preliminary hearing, which could allow them to confront their accusers.

"There's no witness. I know that they [the prosecutors] don't like that he's in jail," DeSipio said. "This accuser says there was an erect penis in his buttocks."

"Was it in your buttocks, or was it in your anus," he asked rhetorically. "If that question wasn't asked [of the grand jury], and he didn't specify anus or butt cheeks, I have a right to ask that."

"What you can't do, and what I submit they're trying to do, is say just because we have a grand jury, we have good cause [to by-pass a preliminary hearing]," DeSipio said.

The judge also addressed a potential conflict of interest concerning Monsignor Lynn, who unlike the three current and former priests, faces child endangerment charges - not rape or sexual assault. Plans for the Archdiocese of Philadelphia to pay Lynn's legal costs present "a whole array of conflicts that I can't even imagine at this point in time," Hughes said.

"It's real simple," the judge said to Lynn, who was donning his clerical collar, "your master is the person that's putting bread on the table."

"It may be in your best interest to put forth a defense that attacks other people [or the church]," Hughes said.

She told Lynn he was putting himself in the position of receiving "advice from people who are being paid by people whose interests don't necessarily align with yours."

The stakes of this gamble could amount to "14 years of incarceration versus probation," she said.

Lynn, in a calm voice, declined. "Well, I trust these two men." he said, adding that the church hadn't placed any conditions on the payment of his legal costs.

Hughes was incredulous. "You are making a knowing, voluntary and intelligent decision to place yourself in conflict with your attorneys?" she asked.

"I am," Lynn responded, waiving his right to any future appeal based on the argument that his attorneys had a conflict of interest.

"Then we're moving forward," the judge said.

After arraignments and release of the first batch of discovery, which will include grand jury notes and testimony, on April 15, the government will begin putting together a second batch. The government said that batch would take longer to produce, as it will include roughly 10,000 pages of documentation, much of which will need to be redacted.

Hughes said the government must give the defense a specific timeline for the production of the second batch. "There has to be some finality," she said.

In January, a grand jury returned an indictment for rape and sexual assault against one current priest, one defrocked priest and one man who taught at a Catholic school. Monsignor Lynn, the third cleric who worked for the archdiocese as secretary of clergy, is accused of giving known abusers easy access to minors.


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To: muawiyah; buccaneer81; Dr. Eckleburg

What does Eckleburg translate to?


221 posted on 03/26/2011 7:59:34 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: muawiyah
"Gatsby is a kind of T. J. Eckleburg; he has created a god like image of himself, but the image is doomed- the dream will turn to dust- and like Eckleburg, Gatsby also has occasion to brood over the ashes of the past, over the solemn dumping ground of worn out hopes"

Quite fitting for the old girl.

222 posted on 03/26/2011 8:03:08 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: WPaCon

I fail to see the rationale behind the thinking that disobeying God is going to protect one from spiritual attack.

Sinning always leaves on open to spiritual attack.

But pray away to idols if it makes you feel better.


223 posted on 03/26/2011 8:03:49 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

“I fail to see the rationale behind the thinking that disobeying God is going to protect one from spiritual attack.”

Same with me.

“Sinning always leaves on open to spiritual attack.”

Yes, it does.

“But pray away to idols if it makes you feel better.”

What idol am I praying to?


224 posted on 03/26/2011 8:05:57 PM PDT by WPaCon (Obama: pansy progressive, mad Mohammedan, or totalitarian tyrant? Or all three?)
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To: fatima

Try following the conversation before replying.


225 posted on 03/26/2011 8:06:30 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

What did I miss metmom?


227 posted on 03/26/2011 8:07:45 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: metmom
What state are you in? Depending upon your answer, I might guess that everyone you could talk to, Catholic or otherwise, votes dem.

Assuming, of course, that your post is even true.

228 posted on 03/26/2011 8:08:01 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: buccaneer81
lol. From an "opinion" by a Roman Catholic at Catholicism.org.

Every reputable outlet cites the correct statistics that 54% or Roman Catholics voted for Obama while 45% of Protestants voted for Obama.

The only thing recalcitrant RC apologists have on their side is their proclivity toward fantasy.

229 posted on 03/26/2011 8:08:33 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Every reputable outlet cites the correct statistics that 54% or Roman Catholics voted for Obama

Yeah, CNN, MSNBC, DU, HuffPo, Kos...

231 posted on 03/26/2011 8:11:32 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Stop making it personal.


232 posted on 03/26/2011 8:11:51 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: metmom
God,Catholic’s ignore sin.What is sin to you.
234 posted on 03/26/2011 8:12:22 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: MarkBsnr

Your history is missing some important facts. It was not until the 1200’s under Pope Innocent II that the church rules changed to only prohibit married priests.

1) “For the first 1200 years of the Church’s existence, priests, bishops and 39 popes were married.” - Source: Kelly, J. N. D. Oxford Dictionary of Popes. New York, Oxford Press. 1986.

2) “Celibacy is not essential to the Priesthood.” - quote Pope John Paul II - Source: Time Magazine. July 1993.

3) “You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.” St. Peter, the pope who was closest to Jesus, was married.


235 posted on 03/26/2011 8:13:34 PM PDT by WaterBoard
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To: Religion Moderator

I suggest you give that order to ALL the posters allegedly “making it personal.”


236 posted on 03/26/2011 8:13:37 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: stevem; Dr. Scarpetta
I think bishops that did this were either pederasts themselves or earned for themselves reservations in the deepest regions of hell or both. If they are extant, and it can be proved, they need to be put in prison.

Ah, yes, the eternal papist caveat -- "if they are extant..."

Will a Cardinal suffice?

CARDINAL PROMOTED ALLEGED SEX ABUSER

237 posted on 03/26/2011 8:15:43 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: buccaneer81; Religion Moderator

Yes. Please try to enforce your rules consistently.


238 posted on 03/26/2011 8:15:51 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (Some minds are like cement; thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: buccaneer81

Not necessary, the RF guideline is when one poster in a sidebar has been warned, all posters must consider themselves warned.


239 posted on 03/26/2011 8:15:58 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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She added that the substance of the claim that DiSipio witnessed something is still unclear. "I just don't know if it's true," Hughes said. "I really don't know if it's true."

Yet she spouts a charge in open court? This is a judge? Time for her to step aside.

240 posted on 03/26/2011 8:17:04 PM PDT by D-fendr
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