Catholic Sex Abuse Hearing Descends Into `Shut Up' Order and Charge of 'Abomination'

Courthouse News Service ^ | March 25, 2011 | Reuben Kramer

[HossB86]

When pederasts they are found to be in Protestant churches, they are usually turned over to police authorities, tried and convicted if guilty.

They are not protected, hidden nor promoted, as they are in the RCC.

And further, the cases you cite are from a dozen states.

37 Roman Catholic priests suspected of pederasty in one city in one diocese.

Game. Set. Match.

Hoss

[Dr. Eckleburg]

37 Roman Catholic priests suspected of pederasty in one city in one diocese.

Game. Set. Match.

It would sure seem that way to adult minds. Adults with children to raise and protect. Adults who wouldn't hand over their children to men who have forsaken a wife and children of their own but who instead prefer the company of other men. And boys.

[HossB86]

The man with the cat pictures has showed up.

Cat pictures are usually posted by girls, Mark.

Riot! That'll leave a mark, Doc.

:D

Hoss

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Here are some eye-opening statistics, thanks to Daniel1212, regarding just who is liberal and who is not...

56% of Catholics believe that sexual relations between two adults of the same gender is not a sin. 2011 Public Religion Research Institute http://www.publicreligion.org/research/?id=509 http://www.publicreligion.org/objects/uploads/40/Catholics_and_LGBT_issues_2010_FINAL.pdf
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39% Catholics say homosexual behavior is morally wrong, versus 76% of white evangelicals and 66% of black Protestants. ^
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52% of black Protestants and 58% of white evangelical Protestants oppose any form of legal recognition for same-sex couples.^
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74% of Catholics agree that homosexual relationships should be accepted by society. (Among the general public 62% say that gay and lesbian relationships should be accepted by society.) ^
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69% of Catholics disagree that homosexual orientation can be changed, versus 23% who believe that they can change. ^
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43% of Catholics favor allowing homosexual people to marry — 71% if this would be a civil marriage “like you get at city hall” (versus in a church) — while 31% of Catholics favor allowing them to form civil unions, with 22% holding there should be no legal recognition of a homosexual couple’s relationship. Catholic support of legal recognition of homosexual relationships is higher than members of any other Christian tradition polled, and of Americans overall. ^
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Without distinguishing what kind of marriage, 53% of Catholics overall affirm that homosexual couples should be allowed to marry. ^
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27% of Catholics who attend church services regularly say their clergy speak about the issue of homosexuality, with 63% of this group saying the messages they hear are negative. ^
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Only 26% of Catholics who attend services weekly or more favor allowing homosexual people to marry, compared to 43% of Catholics who attend once or twice a month, and 59% of Catholics who attend a few times a year or less. Only 20% of Catholics reported attending mass only once or twice a month. ^
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Only 31% of weekly attenders say there should be no legal recognition for a gay couples relationship. ^
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73% of Catholics favor laws that would protect homosexual people against discrimination in the workplace. ^
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63% of Catholics favor allowing gay and lesbian people to serve openly in the military, while 60% favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to adopt children. ^
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48% of white evangelical Protestants oppose letting homosexuals serve openly in the military, with 34% supporting this proposal, versus 63% of Catholics (66% of white) supporting and 23% opposing. Pew forum, November 29, 2010, http://pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Issues/Gay_Marriage_and_Homosexuality/gays%20in%20military%20full%20report.pdf
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White evangelicals are most satisfied with their church’s handling of homosexuality, with 75 percent giving it an `A’ or a `B.’ Catholics are the most critical, with nearly a third — twice as many as any other group — giving their church a `D’ or `F.’ Oct. 2010 Poll sponsored by the Public Religion Research Institute and the Religion News Service. http://thepulpit.freedomblogging.com/2010/10/22/survey-links-gay-bullying-to-religion/7682/

Thirty-one percent of Catholics called celibacy a major factor leading to sexual abuse, while another 28 percent called it a minor factor. Thirty-five percent said celibacy did not play a part in the abuse.

Thirty percent, meanwhile, said homosexuality played a major role. An additional 23 percent said it played a minor role. Thirty-seven percent said it was not a factor. http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_catholics_050410_2pm.pdf

[buccaneer81]

54% of Roman Catholics voted for Obama

That lie has been exposed and other posters have explained how the media came up with that false number, but you side with the leftist MSM just the same.

Hmmm.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

many Catholics have decided to ignore the anti-Christians during Lent. Let them stew in their hate and bigotry against Christ and his Church.

I am very sad you feel this way. I am a Christian, and I love my young grandchildren, ages 1 and 3. I support the fact that a pastor, teacher, or coach should be investigated or prosecuted for sexually assaulting a child. That pastor, teacher, or coach should not be transferred to another town and allowed to assault other children.

[WPaCon]

I’m Catholic and I totally agree with your post.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

Thank you...

[Puddleglum]

pathetic is a term I would reserve for a denial that America is an abulance-chasing society. Your selective quoting of my reply is also pathetic, but predictable. I have no problem doubling down on my request to wait and see - it is a call for fue process, not a bet on the outcome. Also, I don’t recall saying “they all do it” or accusing anyone of anti-Catholic bigotry. Does your misrepresenting of my argument violate any rules of this forum?

[WPaCon]

That picture is nice, but as a Catholic, I prefer my cats to be homosexual.

[WPaCon]

Does your misrepresenting of my argument violate any rules of this forum?

I'm not sure, but keep in mind that some people get special protection on this site.

[MarkBsnr]

This batch are all Presbyterians.

If they were allowed to marry, none of this would happen and they would be full of the Christian love of God almighty and full of Christian charity to their fellow men...

...reserving their deepest reserves of Christian love for Quakers, Baptists, and Catholics...

such as Michael Wigglesworth (when he wasn't writing about his male students, he wrote this):

Oddly enough, even though he married, he didn't consummate the marriage. No matter, at least he was married. Hmm, so was James VI of Scotland, who became James I of England, and was a public catamite (even though he actually did father children) and wrote the KJV. So the ones who disapprove of homosexuality with adults and children lionize somebody that did it publically and believe that his political Bible is the best English Bible that ever existed.

Oh yes, where were we? Christian love for all men...

[WPaCon]

“Riot! That’ll leave a mark, Doc.

:D”

It looks like you’re reveling in someone being insulted. That’s not normally considered Christian behavior.

[WaterBoard]

That is because the majority of cases of child rape by priests outlived the statute of limitations in many states so prosecutors can’t bring cases.

However, in this case there is evidence of collusion among the child rapist priests and church leadership to cover up their deeds.

These gay priests are destroying the church and pretending that it does not exist in face of daily revelations is like burying your head in the sand.

[buccaneer81]

Spectacular post!

[MarkBsnr]

Cat pictures are usually posted by girls, Mark.

What do harpies usually post?

[Palladin]

I love Judge Renee for telling that sappy defense attorney to “SHUT UP!”

Like the judge, I have had it with defenders of these monsters. They raped little boys—anally and orally.

There is no defense.

Large millstone—deep sea. That’s what the child rapists deserve. That’s what Jesus said.

[stevem]

Just wondering if you're a priest...

Nope. I went into the seminary in ninth grade. In those days most of the lasses I knew up close and personal were shaped like pencils. By twelfth grade that had all changed, and pheromones filled the air. It was pretty clear to me that celibacy wasn't in the cards.

My freshman class had about a hundred a hundred lads. The total at graduation was thirty one young men. Two of those were eventually ordained. It says right here neither of those two ever abused a youth of any gender. I know them both and consider them friends.

My personal experience tells me only a tiny percent of priests make life miserable on the rest and on Catholics in general.

Even though I might argue an adjustment in Catholic rules might be worth the discussion, I feel it's sophistry to argue that Catholic rules engender evil. There are entirely too many adults in non-priestly functions who commit the same heinous acts to blame it all on Catholic rules.

I left the seminary and joined the military in a short time. That was during the Vietnam era. At that point I was accused of being a baby killer. I never killed a baby in my life. I've known hundreds of military men and women. My son is a Navy pilot. I've never known a single military man or woman who killed a baby. I s'pect in the history of the United States some have.

If you can argue that Catholic rules make priests pederasts, you can argue military rules make military people baby killers. I think both arguments are a bit of s stretch. Same with saying Catholic rules attract pederasts.

Pederasts are all around us. Many of them aren't even Catholic.