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Why I Believe the Beatification of John Paul II is a Mistake.
Master of Divinity ^ | 3/26/2011 | Rev. Fr. J. Michael venditti

Posted on 03/25/2011 10:24:54 PM PDT by Balt

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To: steve86; GCC Catholic
Steve, you're mistaken. Fatima is, and always was, a "private revelation," because it's not part of "public revelation," which ceased with the death of the last Apostle. (The contrary proposition was condemned in Lamentabili Sane, Pope St. Pius X, 1907.)

Private revelations bind in faith only those to whom they were given; if they didn't, they'd be public.

41 posted on 03/26/2011 6:11:55 PM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: dangus

O yes, because in the USA you can attend mass on Saturday night, instead of Sunday.

Where is the link?


42 posted on 03/26/2011 6:15:33 PM PDT by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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To: Campion

Hi Campion, I appreciate that what you speak is an authentic, mainstream Catholic point of view. I also readily accept that the Blessed Virgin Mary acting for Our Lord can obsolete any prior opinion in a flash of Heavenly Glory.


43 posted on 03/27/2011 1:52:44 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: verdugo
A Catholic that attends mass once a month, is not a practicing Catholic. He is likely also committing sacrilege by going to communion without confessing his sins, like the MORTAL sin of not going to mass on Sundays.

It's kind of hard for rigid traditionalist such as myself (lol) since only two Tridentine Masses are offered during a typical month. If you drive 70 miles away you can find a third. But driving 180-220 miles away to a fourth Diocesan Latin Mass just isn't often possible for a family who has lived on savings for the last 12 years like us.

44 posted on 03/27/2011 2:07:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: verdugo; Campion
This "we are not bound to believe private revelations" or "the instructions of private revelations", is accurate, the question is, is Fatima really "private"?.

Yes, it really is, including the Miracle of the Sun. Despite it being "public" in the sense that many people saw it, it remains private revelation.

Now, given the multitude of witnesses for the Miracle of the Sun, as well as the Portugal being spared from the Spanish Civil War, I think it is imprudent for us to ignore Fatima.

If idiots like us know all this information, you can be sure that all the popes since the message was passed to Rome, all of them, knew exactly what they had to do, and thus are responsible before God for all the harm that was caused by their lack of belief, or weakness.

Yes, they are responsible for harm caused by lack of belief or weakness. That said, we don't know why they didn't do what Our Lady asked of them - maybe it is weakness, maybe it is lack of belief, maybe it is something else.

I would not presume to judge Pope Benedict, or any past Popes or any to come, concerning a matter of private revelation. I would hope you don't presume to do so either. Certainly encourage, but never judge.

45 posted on 03/30/2011 3:57:01 AM PDT by GCC Catholic
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To: steve86
It's kind of hard for rigid traditionalist such as myself (lol) since only two Tridentine Masses are offered during a typical month. If you drive 70 miles away you can find a third. But driving 180-220 miles away to a fourth Diocesan Latin Mass just isn't often possible for a family who has lived on savings for the last 12 years like us.

The lack of an accessible TLM hardly excuses one from his obligation to attend Sunday Mass, when a Catholic Liturgy at a Church in communion with Rome is available.

That said, this is the whole reason for Summorum Pontificum: to make valid and licit Tridentine Masses available for those who are have an attachment to the TLM. It sounds like there is genuine pastoral need in your diocese for TLMs more often, and/or at more parishes.

46 posted on 03/30/2011 4:04:07 AM PDT by GCC Catholic
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To: GCC Catholic

Everything that you responded is accurate. I agree.


47 posted on 03/30/2011 6:55:13 AM PDT by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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To: GCC Catholic
The lack of an accessible TLM hardly excuses one from his obligation to attend Sunday Mass

It does when attendance at a NewMass would endanger ones faith or that of others. Last time I attempted to assist at one my emotional distress was so great it was disruptive to those around me and totally antithetical to my own prayerfulness. Father was aware also.

48 posted on 03/30/2011 7:48:10 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: narses; NYer

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49 posted on 05/04/2011 11:11:14 AM PDT by Coleus (Adult Stem Cells Work, there is NO Need to Harvest Babies for Their Body Parts!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; redhead

Is Balt a Byzantine Priest?


50 posted on 05/04/2011 6:34:54 PM PDT by Coleus (Adult Stem Cells Work, there is NO Need to Harvest Babies for Their Body Parts!)
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To: Coleus

he says he is a pastor in an Eparchy, which is the same as a diocese. But he could be bi-ritual, which means he has faculties for both Eastern and Latin rite celebration. I have not read the article yet.


51 posted on 05/04/2011 8:10:11 PM PDT by redhead (The Lefties want to have YOUR cake, and eat it too...)
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To: Coleus

See his profile page.


52 posted on 05/04/2011 9:43:32 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

a self-governing Church >>

what’s that mean? I thought they had to report to a bishop?


53 posted on 05/04/2011 9:50:26 PM PDT by Coleus (Adult Stem Cells Work, there is NO Need to Harvest Babies for Their Body Parts!)
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To: Coleus; NYer
a self-governing Church >>

what’s that mean? I thought they had to report to a bishop?

It means they are sui iuris. NYer should have some good links for you that will it explain it better than I can.

54 posted on 05/05/2011 11:03:21 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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