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To: count-your-change

>”He, like David, would have to wait for that resurrection from the memorial tombs (John 5:28, 29) of the “righteous and unrighteous” sometime in the future. “

Let’s see what Jesus has to say about death and the soul:


Luke 16:19-31

19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”


Where was Lazarus? Answer: In Hell.

Where were his five brothers while Lazarus’s soul was burning in Hell? Answer: They were alive and well, living on planet Earth.

Was Lazarus asleep, awaiting some future resurrection? Answer: No!

Therefore, you do greatly err in not listening to what Christ, Himself has to say on the subject.

Cheers


31 posted on 03/21/2011 11:13:53 AM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Here, intolerance... will not be tolerated! - (South Park))
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To: DoctorBulldog

Do you not understand this parable? Do you not understand what Peter said about Christ being in Hades?


39 posted on 03/21/2011 11:25:04 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: DoctorBulldog
Where was Lazarus? Answer: In Hell.

I think that you meant the 'rich man' in your response....

In answer to the original question as to where was Christ during the 3 day period, God exists outside of time and space. Thus the question is flawed.

41 posted on 03/21/2011 11:26:10 AM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: DoctorBulldog

Lazarus in Hell? My Bible says he was comforted in Abrahams Bosom...the Rich man is not named because he us absent from the Book of Life


59 posted on 03/21/2011 12:02:58 PM PDT by Leader_Of_The _Conservatives (High time to bring back the sons (and daughters) of liberty!!!! SP4P2012)
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To: DoctorBulldog

Then you take this passage to be an acutal historical narrative, given to us by Christ, to let us have a glimpse of what the afterlife is like? Wow, He gave this to His most hated enemies in the context of a situation that actually began in the 14th chapter? May I perhaps suggest a few inconsistencies with such a postion?

Why was Abraham on the good side of the gulf and not with the rich man on the bad side? You do recall that Abraham was exceedingly wealthy? It appears the only thing that the rich man was guilty of was his being exceedingly rich. Did Jesus lay any specific charges against the rich man? If so, what were they?

What was there about Lazarus that Jesus praised? Was he an especially holy man? It seems to me that Lazarus represents what’s wrong with those of the “hand out, entitlement” crowd. He in my opinion was a “victicrat” always blaming everyone else for his misfortunes. “The rich man is keeping me down, man.” Well, then, why did he stay at his gate hoping to be fed by the crumbs from his table? I believe King David would not have had a fond estimation of Lazarus. Didn’t David say that he was young and he was old, but he never saw the righteous begging bread? Ergo, Lazarus was not righteous in my opinion.

It is very unfortunate that many people believe the same as you that this passage represents what happens in the afterlife. I believe this is the most exquisite example of satire ever to be found in all of literature. He was lashing His enemies with their own words. He put their hypocritical teachings into words and lashed them as if with a whip of scorpions barbs. And it got through to them. Read their reactions to His words. Ouch!

There is so much more to this story, this satire. For example, the great gulf that existed in the land of Palestine between the rulers of the Jews and the common people. No one ever crossed from one side to the other. But, that’s a whole different story concerning the political and social and economic conditions existing in the land at that time under the Roman occupation


131 posted on 03/21/2011 8:53:10 PM PDT by Overwatcher
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