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To: divine_moment_of_facts; WhatIsTruth
Oh yeah..Roy Masters is a cult.. He wants people to get better and not need him anymore.. That is so cultish! ;) [divine_moment_of_facts]

Roy Masters is no more a cult than Jesus and his disciples were according to the Sadducees and Pharisees of his day, if you get my drift my dear and I like Beck too, he's a good man, so does Roy, we cultists got to stick together... [what-is-truth]

You both must be under Masters' hypnotic spell. (Even Masters calls his followers "Roybots.") [These Roybots have clashed repeatedly with others in Grants Pass, OR, when a couple of thou of them followed Masters when he moved there]

Are you both followers of a hypnotist born as Reuben Obermeister, who served a 30-day jail sentence for practicing medicine without a license?

Masters: "The secret lies in the Meditation Exercise, a principle similar to self-hypnosis. All of us have within a natural inclination toward right action..." (Masters, How Your Mind Can Keep You Well, LA, Foundation Press, 1971, p. xvii)

And, again Masters: "Meditation establishes a new relationship. Energy becomes available from within...What we say, do, and think, is intuitively impelled...Naturally, without effort, we are impelled to do what we realize is wise and to shrink from what is unwise." (same source, p. 75)

Masters' religion is ultimately selfism...the "Within" is capitalized...self-intuition is over-stressed. "Natural inclination" -- "Naturally" -- our "nature" -- is glorified, as is self-realization...(Masters has borrowed from Hindu-laced New Agism)

Masters: "No form of outer assistance can substitute for inner direction. Direction must come always from within. Moved by the spirit of intuition...The more we exercise our dependency upon the Within, the stronger this relationship becomes..." (same source, p. 132)

More Masters' selfism!

The goal, says Masters? "Through patience you will come to perfection..." (same source, p. 194)

Masters had a debate with Walter Martin in which he claimed perfection was possible (via his hypnotic, natural, self-directed, self-intuitive, "Within" method).

Masters: I am a man without sin." (1984 Masters' interview with "Us" Magazine, as cited by Howard Kurtz, The Washington Post, Nov., 1990)

And, Masters' measures "salvation" by mere intent: "Salvation is by the intent to do right." (Masters, Foundation Press tape on "Guilt")

Overall, Masters "combines Eastern and gnostic beliefs, Christian terminology, yoga, hypnotism, and self-help principles..." (Walter Martin, The New Cults, p. 297; most of research above by Gretchen Passantino and Todd Ehrenburg).

93 posted on 03/21/2011 10:55:35 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; whatisthetruth

Colofornian.. Looks like you are not a fan of Roy’s. He is the first one to admit he’s made mistakes in his life. He used to be on XM radio.. I mocked him, too.. Then I actually started Listening to him. He really spoke to me and what I was going through in my life at the time. I don’t agree with him on everything, but man oh man is there ever a lot of painful truth in what he says. Some peoples ego’s can’t handle it. I listen to him once in a while great while now. His ‘Sunday Sessions’ are thought provoking.. Give him a listen sometime..

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113 posted on 03/21/2011 12:04:37 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts; Colofornian; fabian; abigail2; Sir_Ed

Well since this thread is about Beck I see no need to engage in a debate AGAIN with the closed mind of Colofornian about Roy Masters, Colofornian gets all his info about Roy from some old website about cults, notice how old the info is that he’s quoting, lol, cults tend to work in secret, Roy has been on the air for 50 years and is now on close to 200 stations 2 hrs a day, so needless to say, is open to anyone that wants to challenge him on air or in person at his Sunday sessions about his ‘cultist’ beliefs, dare I say he would wipe the floor with Colofornian in much the same way he wiped the floor with Walter Martin. (Nuff said!)


134 posted on 03/21/2011 12:39:34 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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