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To: Kirkwood
Oh? I cannot find recorded anywhere in the WHOLE of the Bible that Mary ever sinned.

That would make her a 'deity', to have never sinned, and Christ said the greatest commandment was to love the Father, not other flesh mortal fellow servants. I can't find any explicit words that said Enoch sinned either, or even for that matter Able.

18 posted on 03/19/2011 11:40:28 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

>> That would make her a ‘deity’, to have never sinned. <<

Really? My bible doesn’t say that not sinning makes someone a deity. What bible are you using? Weren’t you just criticizing people for supporting their own beliefs with weak evidence, while ignoring mountains of evidence to the contrary? What evidence do you have for this bizarre assertion? How is that consistent with sola scriptura?

>> I can’t find any explicit words that said Enoch sinned either, or even for that matter Able. <<

I can’t either. But then, neither of them were called, “Ketocharitoumene,” meaning, “filled to completion with grace.” Nor were they called, “Mother of my LORD,” by one speaking with the Holy Spirit. Nor were they used to symbolize the whole of the Christian church (Rev. 12).


31 posted on 03/20/2011 12:10:18 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Just mythoughts
That would make her a 'deity', to have never sinned, and Christ said the greatest commandment was to love the Father, not other flesh mortal fellow servants. I can't find any explicit words that said Enoch sinned either, or even for that matter Able.

If Adam and Eve had not eaten of the Tree, they would never have sinned, and neither would we. The Angels do not sin. A plant does not sin. Sinlessness is the natural property of creatures as well as Creator. By itself it doesn't indicate divinity.

Now, on Abel and Enoch, you're right. There is no explicit testimony that they sinned. So if we are holding to the principle of "Sola Scriptura", we must be appropriately cautious and say, simply, "we aren't sure." Maybe they sinned, maybe they didn't. Scripture doesn't say either way.

50 posted on 03/20/2011 1:52:59 AM PDT by Claud
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