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To: Mad Dawg
"There is no good pedagogical reason not to start Latin classes in Kindergarten in Catholic schools, and there are good arguments in favor."

I started in the second grade...a little late apparently, but early enough so that I majored in Latin & Greek in college. I've never, ever, regretted it.

The Latin Mass is indeed beautiful and solemn and to the extent that the laity actually understands the prayers, it's a magnificent religious event and experience. If I were a Latin, it would be my chosen rite. I suggest, however, that the problem is more with the NO mass, rather than English. I remember the old Mass prayed and chanted in High Church English back in the 1960s. It was wonderful and everyone understood the Introit, the Collect, etc.

9 posted on 03/13/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis
It's not the NO per se, but the poorly concealed notion of those who came up with it (and of similar people doing similar things in the Episcopal Church) that the laity are all fools and we must dumb down the rites for them. I think it perfectly possible to come up with a good, beautiful and liturgy in the vernacular, always bearing in mind that specialized topics in any vernacular have their jargon and terms of art, so the poor laity will have actually to think a little, be we never so colloquial. Dorothy Sayers has a plan of education which involves teaching little one's medieval Latin and, when they get to the argumentative age, they'll be ready to argue in it. Something like that anyway.
15 posted on 03/13/2011 11:44:13 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Kolokotronis; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; Salvation

“”The Latin Mass is indeed beautiful””

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9sIcQ5MAeM&feature=related


22 posted on 03/14/2011 3:37:42 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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