“Are we saved by grace or by faith?”
By grace thru faith, not grace thru election.
Gamecock was honest. If election is individual and not corporate, and if what Calvin says is true, then we are saved by grace thru election. Election is the key - with it, you will irresistibly be saved, without it, you are irresistibly damned.
And that makes Jesus a liar.
If election is the determining requirement, then it is grace thru election.
But scripture says again and again it is by faith: “Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
“Arminians believe the natural man can understand the things of God, obey and believe. Arminians believe men rebirth themselves; that they make themselves to differ.”
Arminians believe what scripture says: we are lost, blind, captive, rebels against God. But God in his mercy reached down, and like the Philippian jailer who wants to know “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”, we respond, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
I challenged you Dr E well over a year ago to find a single verse saying that saving faith is a gift given by God to enable belief. Have you found it?
For any lurkers who want to understand what corporate election is (which in turns explains why the verses cited by Calvinists are consistent with the teaching of Jesus and Peter and Paul, I recommend:
http://evangelicalarminians.org/
and http://evangelicalarminians.org/node/1106
So we are saved by grace.
Is grace merited or freely given?
I challenged you Dr E well over a year ago to find a single verse saying that saving faith is a gift given by God to enable belief. Have you found it?
I not only found it and many others then, I have given you several verses tonight.
You ignore them now as you did then.
ARMINIANISM'S DEPERSONALIZATION OF THE GOSPEL
ARMINIANISM: THE GOLDEN IDOL OF FREE WILL
From all the links above we see that Arminianism is simply Romanism minus the dresses.