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To: CTrent1564
... thus the Church and the Sacraments are thuse the “normative instrument” thru which God reconciles humanity back to himself."

As per above, this conclusion is not supported by the evidence, unless the instrument is the presentation of counter-examples to what God taught, to provide for confusion and other effective stumbling blocks.

"... despite your “protests” otherwise."

I simply presented what is written and presented the matter with clear logic and evidence. That is not protest.

25 posted on 03/09/2011 7:26:08 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
I simply presented what is written and presented the matter with clear logic and evidence.

The "clear logic" and "evidence" shows me that Jesus, on the night after he rose from the dead (pretty significant point in time!) appeared to the Apostles, breathed on them, and gave them both the power and the authority to remit sins in his name.

Given the circumstances and text of John 20:22, I see no other possibility. I'm in pretty good company, because Christians have understood that verse that way for 2000 years. All of the Orthodox churches understand it the same way we do.

In fact, confession is such a natural, obvious thing that evangelicals have had to re-invent it. They call it "accountability partners," but it's the same thing, just without the apostolic authority passed down through the bishops.

27 posted on 03/09/2011 9:43:16 PM PST by Campion
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